As they should, hopefully, the government will start listening at some point. You can’t add a backdoor to encryption, it’s a massive fucking security risk.
Weary-Candy8252 on
This Labour government is worse than the Tories ever were
fenbre on
This is one of those moves that just feels deeply wrong in your gut
No one would vote for something like this
FlimsyDistance9437 on
Why exactly does the UK govt need this access when other countries don’t?
_aoux on
Absolute own goal from the government. Shambolic decision.
cookiesnooper on
Remember peasants; smile and repeat ” it’s for our own good”
DryWetwipe on
This is dangerous and worrying. I wonder if similar pressure will be applied by other authoritarian governments.
vriska1 on
Prelude to what about to happen with the online safety act on March 16th.
MrModius on
>It means eventually no UK customer data stored on iCloud – Apple’s cloud storage service – will be encrypted, making it all accessible by Apple and shareable with law enforcement, if they have a warrant.
And I’m sure no other party will ever be able to figure out how to access that data if they also really wanted to… right?
evu34 on
Is writing to your mp worth it for this, what would I even say lol this is fucked
Is_It_Now_Or_Never_ on
The problem is that most people in the UK will support this because “terrorism” and they don’t understand the consequences of this action.
Sadly people in the UK are docile and buy any old nonsense fed to them
Wadarkhu on
So is Google the same with Google Drive or? Surely they’d all be affected, or is it staggered?
ash_ninetyone on
I would be honest, I’m slightly uneasy at the ramifications of this.
People use cloud services like these as tools for backups and ways to store things so they can be accessed across multiple devices easily. There’s stuff that uses would have ease of mind knowing it’s encrypted.
Users shouldn’t store super sensitive information like bank statements or birth certificate scans or stuff on there. But they do store things like photos, etc.
So encryption helps protect against any hacks from fraud, identity theft, etc (except where an account is breached because of a weak password, etc)
There does need to be some form of decryption, subject to a warrant of course, that allows access for police investigations, if a user is suspected of criminal activity (though a user isn’t smart if they’re storing anything incriminating like that online anyway).
But a blanket decryption of all data is the wrong way to go about this.
I feel that instead of decrypting the data, in case of a warrant, they could’ve allowed account access to the account (reset username, password, bypass any 2FA or reconfigure it for police access), where they would’ve been able to get the items anyway, but without potentially compromising millions of other users in the process.
Narrow_Maximum7 on
They could have just made it so that convicted sex offenders got 2 years for having possession of an apple product.
iamezekiel1_14 on
So they do want to look at my Resident Evil saves? Which one is Sir Kier a fan of?
scgf01 on
I’m in the UK and am not at all bothered. I’ve never been all in with the Apple ecosystem. I use Bitwarden for passwords, WhatsApp for messaging and run my own NextCloud server for cloud storage, calendars and contacts where I am in control. I have never heard of ADP and I could guarantee 99% of Apple users in the UK haven’t either. Be responsible for your own security, it really isn’t that difficult.
snakeandcake12 on
This is an iCloud feature which quite frankly I think many people did not even have on in the first place because it required storing a key elsewhere.
I think it’s not the right path to go down, but they’ve obviously done it because evidently iCloud was a secure place to hide a lot of child porn and things of that nature.
The issue is for the UK gov, bad actors can just find alternatives to use as there are plenty of them. I think it’s an extremely hard issue to fight against because things are becoming a lot more secure now, but to say this will affect iPhone users in the majority is probably not true.
CroiConcrete on
The only vote you have in this world is how you spend your money.. can anyone recommend an alternative to iCloud advanced data protection please?
Grantus89 on
While this is stupid I seriously doubt many people actually had Advance Data Protection on, if I remember correctly it had some downsides so that it didn’t make sense for “normal” people to turn on anyway.
OranjeBrian on
Here’s a question. What’s worse for the British public, Huawei equipment in our mobile phone masts or our government forcing Apples hand?
I think at this point I trust China more.
theabominablewonder on
I turned it on when I heard about it a month ago, because I don’t want governments snooping my stuff even if it is random screenshots of fantasy football or dog photos.
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As they should, hopefully, the government will start listening at some point. You can’t add a backdoor to encryption, it’s a massive fucking security risk.
This Labour government is worse than the Tories ever were
This is one of those moves that just feels deeply wrong in your gut
No one would vote for something like this
Why exactly does the UK govt need this access when other countries don’t?
Absolute own goal from the government. Shambolic decision.
Remember peasants; smile and repeat ” it’s for our own good”
This is dangerous and worrying. I wonder if similar pressure will be applied by other authoritarian governments.
Prelude to what about to happen with the online safety act on March 16th.
>It means eventually no UK customer data stored on iCloud – Apple’s cloud storage service – will be encrypted, making it all accessible by Apple and shareable with law enforcement, if they have a warrant.
And I’m sure no other party will ever be able to figure out how to access that data if they also really wanted to… right?
Is writing to your mp worth it for this, what would I even say lol this is fucked
The problem is that most people in the UK will support this because “terrorism” and they don’t understand the consequences of this action.
Sadly people in the UK are docile and buy any old nonsense fed to them
So is Google the same with Google Drive or? Surely they’d all be affected, or is it staggered?
I would be honest, I’m slightly uneasy at the ramifications of this.
People use cloud services like these as tools for backups and ways to store things so they can be accessed across multiple devices easily. There’s stuff that uses would have ease of mind knowing it’s encrypted.
Users shouldn’t store super sensitive information like bank statements or birth certificate scans or stuff on there. But they do store things like photos, etc.
So encryption helps protect against any hacks from fraud, identity theft, etc (except where an account is breached because of a weak password, etc)
There does need to be some form of decryption, subject to a warrant of course, that allows access for police investigations, if a user is suspected of criminal activity (though a user isn’t smart if they’re storing anything incriminating like that online anyway).
But a blanket decryption of all data is the wrong way to go about this.
I feel that instead of decrypting the data, in case of a warrant, they could’ve allowed account access to the account (reset username, password, bypass any 2FA or reconfigure it for police access), where they would’ve been able to get the items anyway, but without potentially compromising millions of other users in the process.
They could have just made it so that convicted sex offenders got 2 years for having possession of an apple product.
So they do want to look at my Resident Evil saves? Which one is Sir Kier a fan of?
I’m in the UK and am not at all bothered. I’ve never been all in with the Apple ecosystem. I use Bitwarden for passwords, WhatsApp for messaging and run my own NextCloud server for cloud storage, calendars and contacts where I am in control. I have never heard of ADP and I could guarantee 99% of Apple users in the UK haven’t either. Be responsible for your own security, it really isn’t that difficult.
This is an iCloud feature which quite frankly I think many people did not even have on in the first place because it required storing a key elsewhere.
I think it’s not the right path to go down, but they’ve obviously done it because evidently iCloud was a secure place to hide a lot of child porn and things of that nature.
The issue is for the UK gov, bad actors can just find alternatives to use as there are plenty of them. I think it’s an extremely hard issue to fight against because things are becoming a lot more secure now, but to say this will affect iPhone users in the majority is probably not true.
The only vote you have in this world is how you spend your money.. can anyone recommend an alternative to iCloud advanced data protection please?
While this is stupid I seriously doubt many people actually had Advance Data Protection on, if I remember correctly it had some downsides so that it didn’t make sense for “normal” people to turn on anyway.
Here’s a question. What’s worse for the British public, Huawei equipment in our mobile phone masts or our government forcing Apples hand?
I think at this point I trust China more.
I turned it on when I heard about it a month ago, because I don’t want governments snooping my stuff even if it is random screenshots of fantasy football or dog photos.
At some point they will want direct access.
Just like that Labour have lost my vote.
What the fuck are they doing?