Katie Price’s disabled son Harvey kicked out of residential care home for being too ‘difficult’
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Katie Price’s disabled son Harvey kicked out of residential care home for being too ‘difficult’
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/katie-prices-disabled-son-harvey-34718161
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God bless him. I just want him to have a stable home.
That’s a real shame. From what I’ve heard his behaviour is a part of his disability so it does make you think what can be done for people who are “difficult” and through no fault of their own aren’t probably going to improve?
I want to know why only The word difficult is in quote marks.
As usual, a nuanced report from the tabloid press /s
This might not be the home’s fault. EDIT – just rechecked article – he hasn’t even moved in yet: he wasn’t ‘kicked out’, he was told he couldn’t go.
It’s not clear what accommodation was being provided – it sounds to me like Harvey needs to be in his own place with dedicated staff, probably at least 2:1 at all times, maybe more.
This particular home may simply not be a good match, and that can’t necessarily be ascertained until the home has seen his records and undertaken all the risk assessments, etc, that would be associated with him going there. Aside from physical health issues and learning disabilities, some of which may need specialist equipment and staff training that the home cannot provide, the home needs to consider its environment and existing residents. I suspect something has changed from the original acceptance – new information has come to light from records, or – I’m sorry to say – it’s possible that Harvey has displayed behaviours which have made the home decide that it would not be safe for him to be there. “Oppositional defiant disorder” is a nice way of saying ‘He kicks off. A LOT.’ His LDs mean he might not have the capacity to understand that some things are being done in his best interests, like restricting food intake to avoid even more weight gain. “He just doesn’t understand” is no comfort to the person who may have been injured, or – if communal space is shared – the other residents who are now without a TV because it’s been heaved across the room, or who are becoming unsettled themselves because of noise, etc …
Seems to me that Harvey needs to be in his own specialist accommodation. That doesn’t come cheap and takes time to organise. Lucky Katie Price having the ear of the tabloid press where so many other people and their families are struggling unheard.
The people criticising Katie Price here for ‘dumping’ her son in a residential home have clearly never had to care for a severely autistic adult. You tend to find once males with this degree of autism hit puberty they become more aggressive and with his size, a danger to those caring for him due to risk of physical assault. Carer burnout and resentment is also real and it can exacerbate underlying difficulties resulting in more extreme behaviours.
The best place for adults with this degree of disability is in a residential home with carers who are trained in descalation tactics and importantly are not there 24/7 and have the ability to take breaks.
Edit: to paint a vivid image for everyone imagine a toddler having a tantrum, flying into a rage hitting people and breaking things. Now imagine a 6 foot + 150 kg man doing the same completely inconsolable and unable to be reasoned with and cannot tell you why they are upset.
Just needs to find the right place, plenty of others in a similar boat to Harvey who require 24/7 support. Hope he manages to find somewhere to his liking that can facilitate his needs.
We really need Katie Price running the UK Treasury, she seems to be permanently bankrupt yet able to spend money like water at the same time.
Katie Price and Dwight Yorke’s son. Don’t forget the father who abandoned him.
I say none of this to blame the patient, they did not ask to be born with the condition they have.
I spent years working on a specialist autism unit, working with people like Harvey. The cost for an individual patient for a year can be in the millions, some need a teams of at least four staff at all times 24/7, with others on hand if there is a violent incident that needs to be dealt with in a way that keeps both the patient and the staff from harm. I know of one NHS unit that had to close at the end of last year simply down to how many staff were on the long term sick due to injures recieved at work. I myself have been assaulted literally dozens of times a week and knocked unconscious several times. I work in the NHS I get paid a decent wage compared to the private sector but even then I wonder if it’s worth it? Now imagine someone in the community without any training or skills being asked to do the same job for minumum wage shit overtime rates and no pension or benefits.
By far the biggest difficulty we had was finding places in the community for our patients to be released to, all due to inability of finding a good team.
I’m completely unfamiliar with Katie Price’s relationships so please forgive my question if it’s common knowledge.
Where the hell is the father and why isn’t he supporting his child?
Absolutely no one can blame katie for wanting Harvey to live in a residential home and be happy, settled. Unless you’ve had personal experience with someone who has high level care needs you won’t understand.
This article gives very little detail on what too difficult actually means. That’s fine as Harvey should have a level of privacy and Katie Price can be a great leader for raising awareness. A balance. I wish Harvey the best in finding a placement that meets his needs.
Can’t stand the woman but I do know she cares about her son, can’t fault her .
It’s difficult to overstate how huge the care needs are for someone with Prader-Willi syndrome – it’s not the home’s fault if they aren’t able to accommodate the intensive round the clock care he needs. Only a select few specialist care homes do.
My brother is nonverbal and in a residential, he’s an adult and is 6″3. He has previously attacked me and a family member violently because we were in a car and he didnt want to be, resulting in several cuts and bruises, broken glasses and my family member going to A&E due to a sprained neck from his attack.
He was also kicked out of his first residential care home, in his 10 years there he allegedly made 15 staff members quit – these are qualified professionals who were completely overwhelmed with his care needs, how an average person is meant to cope is beyond reason.
Regardless, I don’t blame Katie Price for this at all, nor the staff who couldn’t support his complex needs. It’s sad that there’s some people who are using this as an excuse to punch down at workers and Katie Price. Hate her for a lot of things but this situation is just sad, personal and complicated and probably one that should be left alone by media and commentators.
It’s just a shame this sort of gossip sells.
In the press there have been so many opinions on Katie Price’s parenting style over the years but zero, literally zero, about Dwight Yorke’s hands off parenting
I work in a residential care home and you only get kicked out if they can’t keep you safe from my experience.
At the end of the day, if the home isn’t a good fit, they are better off moving him to one equipped to help him.
Briefly worked with a PWS patient with Psychosis last year coming from a residential care home specialized in PWS patients to a General Acute.
Idk what they do over there but they were one was of the hardest patients to manage due to the insatiable hunger caused by PWS, lying to staff, throwing tantrums and sneaking food. There was this one time another patients family brought some nice pastries for the staff and the patient and the patient left it in their room with the door slightly ajar within the 15 minutes between checks the patient snuck in and ate all of the pastries then lied through their teeth while still having cream and jam around their mouth.
Considering this was one patient in a ward I can completely understand Katie’s intention to use a care home cause this patient was so jarring and would often leave me exhausted by the end of shift. My burnout increased so much and I could go home at the end of the day. A dedicated residential is 100% the place Harvey should be.
This isn’t news. It’s very common in residential autistic care.
Care providers shouldn’t be allowed to give notice without an alternative placement being lined up to replace, whether it’s Katie Price’s kid or anyone else with high needs.
It’s a tough thing to balance taking care of these people with the right of care workers to feel safe imo
The headline is very misleading, it implies it as immediate removel.
No one gets ‘kicked out’
They get notice served on them.
There’s a lot of bad things that can be said about Katie Price, but she has always been as good a mum as she can be. Lots of respect for her devotion to her kids.
I spent the first ten years of my career working in the care sector, most with autistic adults in care home environments.
If you feel anyone has “dumped” their child I challenge you to raise someone requiring around the clock care so they don’t hurt themselves or others UNTILL YOU OR THEY DIE.
I will say this though, I do not understand why this is but from my experience on mental health units, elderly care and LD and Autism, the latter gets by far the best funding and the most staff per person.
He’s not been ‘kicked out’ of anywhere. A prospective care provider has just confirmed they cannot meet his needs. It’s not unusual that, with someone as complex as Harvey, some care providers will give this response. That’s a good thing as you want any potential care provider to be honest and not just accept Harvey into their care for monetary reasons. Harvey will have a Social Worker who is working very hard to try and find somewhere for him to live long term.
And still his father hasn’t done a damn thing for. What a shame.
I hope the best,
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Given all of Harvey’s disabilities were caused by HER behaviour, maybe she can take care of him.
Everyone seems to have forgotten that the reason Harvey has so many disabilities is because his Mum (in the lightest possible terms) never took the pregnancy seriously. She kept up her partying lifestyle and took drugs and drank heavily while she was pregnant. If she’d loved him this much while she was pregnant he wouldn’t have been born with the disabilities.
She’s scum of the Earth as far as I’m concerned. Harvey deserved none of this.
I get the feeling his autism is compounded by his bratty upbringing