My parents bought their house with 2 years wages for £21,000.
I’m sure they’ll work for that. Let’s do that.
isitmattorsplat on
The minimum wage jobs that were a lot more accessible pre-covid have been taken up by people on grad visas (who understandbly want to cover the costs of the extortionate fees they’ve paid.) The uni sector needs the fees but the impact on young people has been detrimental. I just can’t see it getting resolved.
We need more apprenticeships. I’d like to see for every skilled worker visa issued, there must be an L4/L6 apprenticeship role too.
We also need to look into grants for companies to avoid having Grimsby/Blackpool deadzones.
Crazy_Guava_3146 on
It’s a tough old world out there and the youth are probably very demoralised. The incentives just aren’t what they used to be
ShondaVanda on
can you blame them? whats the point of working, theres no light at the end of the tunnel.
ElementalEffects on
Entry level jobs that were previously done by 18 year olds etc are now staffed by full time middle aged people and immigrants.
Youth unemployment across all of Europe is going up massively.
Banpire_ on
Was made redundant after my apprenticeship ended and have spent just over a year looking for work now.
Most places don’t get back to me. The few that do mostly reject me, even places like Morrisons and Tesco’s. I can’t get a job like bar staff or waiter as I lack experience.
Most part time work wants full availability from me which I can’t do as I’m a uni student, the few places that have got back to me about bar work I can’t do because the shifts end at 3 in the morning and I have no way home because public transport is off.
The simple fact is, people like me *can’t* work because there is no work we can do.
Overseerer-Vault-101 on
The problem is the shit jobs are so shit in many ways that the only people who want to work them are people from countries where living 10 to a room and earning £5 day is a step up. Enforce employment law and regulate employment agencies better so they can’t exploit new to the work force people into being “self employed” for less than minimum. Loads of jobs people want to do but won’t as the pay and conditions are astronomically shit.
Classic_Peasant on
Ultimately, wages are awful and prices for everything too high.
Heck my partner and I are late 20s, csnt afford to buy a house even with a decent deposit on our salaries in our home town.
The youth aren’t interested because the social contract is broken. We were always told:
Do well at school, try hard, sturdy hard – good grades, good job, good pay = afford something in life you care about.
Not everything, can’t afford everything but you can afford something you care for.
I.e, foreign holidays or a new car every few years or a nice house or a family or lifestyle of eating out a lot etc.
Now
It’s broken and no matter what you do, pay is low and prices are too high.
modsarescourge-3468 on
Low wage jobs disappearing all over the country – adding millions of low skilled migrants to a swelling population of low skilled workers = no shit.
The young really do have it hard right now.
WebDevWarrior on
The BBC really are pushing hard with this government agenda BS lately aren’t they?
Its a provable fact that there are signifantly less jobs available than there are people seeking work.
Until there are enough jobs to go around, and those jobs are of a decent quality, pay, and appropriate for those applying (sector / experience), we’re always going to have many people unable to work.
Plus-Literature-7221 on
Who would’ve thought importing 700,000 + a year when we only have 800,000 vacancies would leave many inexperienced youths without a job.
Woffingshire on
11 years ago you’d have 15 eighteen year olds doing a job which is now one middle aged person and 15 machines.
Meanwhile the jobs that aren’t being automated are the ones where experience matters more than anything, so young people don’t stand a chance.
Rimbo90 on
As someone who has worked continuously since my teenage years, what is the point? To earn money for corrupt politicians, ungrateful pensioners and billionaires while we all burn our mental health to the ground with shit public services, high taxes and the threat of never being able to retire.
Cyber_Connor on
The problem with measuring success with amount of in employment is that companies and businesses will actually do everything they can to employ as few people as possible. They generally see employees as their largest waste and the more they can cut hours a jobs the better it is for their profits
synth003 on
Rampant greed and wealth disparity will eventually destroy society.
Ok-Camp-7285 on
How are these people surviving? I get complaints about poor wages, broken social contract etc but how do these people afford to live?
IllBeSuspended on
But are the rich people okay? Doesn’t anyone think about the rich people?!?!?!?!?
IndividualCurious322 on
I’m not surprised. I see all these job vacancies with ludicrous expectations for minimum wage (when buying power is practically worthless) where you’ll be competing with hundreds of other people, assuming the listing is even real, which a majority are not.
OSfrogs on
wage stagnation, majority of jobs are shit and dont allow you to reach your potential, companies train hardly anyone, every job wants 3 years experience, huge requirement lists on every job that are impossible to meet entirely, entry level still wants experience, too many people not enough jobs, immigration = more competion for lower salaries, automation = less demand for workers, if you have a gap = unemployable, Autism or mental health = unemployable, no connections = harder to find something, AI used to autoreject, too many hoops, outdated interview practices, multistage interviews, fake job listing’s, ghost jobs, why hire more people if you can work the ones you have a but more?, genz are lazy, rise of contract jobs with no rights, WFH = lazy.
or do BBC know this already but would rather just suck up to the lazy young people agenda?
Gamer_Vulpix on
As someone who’s 21 and unemployed. I would do any job. The issues I face are I either live too far (I live in a village so I have to look for jobs in the next town over) or I need years of experience just to be considered for an interview.
Dracubla on
What opportunities 😭 where are these jobs? The 4 hour contract and you’re not allowed to take other work? Those? Or the ones that you need years, and gargantuan amounts of self financed investment (with loan shark rates) whilst knowing the industry will either wither out, be moved to offshore workers, or controlled by AI?
Next-Ability2934 on
wow… ‘I received an honors degree, thank you ChatGPT’
BeenCalledWorse on
Yeah it’s the ever increasing effects of Inequality, Not surprising when greed is the overwhelming factor behind nearly everything.
drewbles82 on
a lot of them of probably trying to work out what jobs they can actually do that isn’t going to get taken over by ai in the very near future…no point studying something for years at uni, if ai will do it better…estimated 40% of jobs will be gone due to ai in the next decade so not great prospects
CantankerousRabbit on
Me and my partner together on our wage can just afford our house it’s insane
mayasux on
In the Welsh Valleys were I grew up, I searched for just any basic job when I hit 16. Could have been a cashier at Spar, worker at McDees, stocker at Tesco, I wasn’t picky. There’s no real industry where I lived, so I couldn’t be picky.
Had no luck until I was 17 when I got a job at a service station on the M4. Obviously that needed a car, and I was lucky enough to have my Dad drive me back and forth each day. Until my Dad became disabled and stuck in a wheelchair, then I had no way to get to work.
Cars, along with lessons and tests costs money, if my Dad didn’t already have a car I’d be searching a lot lot longer, I’d need a job to get a car, but I wouldn’t have a car without a job. I wouldn’t be able to move somewhere with better job prospects, because that needed money – money I wouldn’t have with no job.
No job, no money, no money, no job, no job, no job.
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My parents bought their house with 2 years wages for £21,000.
I’m sure they’ll work for that. Let’s do that.
The minimum wage jobs that were a lot more accessible pre-covid have been taken up by people on grad visas (who understandbly want to cover the costs of the extortionate fees they’ve paid.) The uni sector needs the fees but the impact on young people has been detrimental. I just can’t see it getting resolved.
We need more apprenticeships. I’d like to see for every skilled worker visa issued, there must be an L4/L6 apprenticeship role too.
We also need to look into grants for companies to avoid having Grimsby/Blackpool deadzones.
It’s a tough old world out there and the youth are probably very demoralised. The incentives just aren’t what they used to be
can you blame them? whats the point of working, theres no light at the end of the tunnel.
Entry level jobs that were previously done by 18 year olds etc are now staffed by full time middle aged people and immigrants.
Youth unemployment across all of Europe is going up massively.
Was made redundant after my apprenticeship ended and have spent just over a year looking for work now.
Most places don’t get back to me. The few that do mostly reject me, even places like Morrisons and Tesco’s. I can’t get a job like bar staff or waiter as I lack experience.
Most part time work wants full availability from me which I can’t do as I’m a uni student, the few places that have got back to me about bar work I can’t do because the shifts end at 3 in the morning and I have no way home because public transport is off.
The simple fact is, people like me *can’t* work because there is no work we can do.
The problem is the shit jobs are so shit in many ways that the only people who want to work them are people from countries where living 10 to a room and earning £5 day is a step up. Enforce employment law and regulate employment agencies better so they can’t exploit new to the work force people into being “self employed” for less than minimum. Loads of jobs people want to do but won’t as the pay and conditions are astronomically shit.
Ultimately, wages are awful and prices for everything too high.
Heck my partner and I are late 20s, csnt afford to buy a house even with a decent deposit on our salaries in our home town.
The youth aren’t interested because the social contract is broken. We were always told:
Do well at school, try hard, sturdy hard – good grades, good job, good pay = afford something in life you care about.
Not everything, can’t afford everything but you can afford something you care for.
I.e, foreign holidays or a new car every few years or a nice house or a family or lifestyle of eating out a lot etc.
Now
It’s broken and no matter what you do, pay is low and prices are too high.
Low wage jobs disappearing all over the country – adding millions of low skilled migrants to a swelling population of low skilled workers = no shit.
The young really do have it hard right now.
The BBC really are pushing hard with this government agenda BS lately aren’t they?
Its a provable fact that there are signifantly less jobs available than there are people seeking work.
Until there are enough jobs to go around, and those jobs are of a decent quality, pay, and appropriate for those applying (sector / experience), we’re always going to have many people unable to work.
Who would’ve thought importing 700,000 + a year when we only have 800,000 vacancies would leave many inexperienced youths without a job.
11 years ago you’d have 15 eighteen year olds doing a job which is now one middle aged person and 15 machines.
Meanwhile the jobs that aren’t being automated are the ones where experience matters more than anything, so young people don’t stand a chance.
As someone who has worked continuously since my teenage years, what is the point? To earn money for corrupt politicians, ungrateful pensioners and billionaires while we all burn our mental health to the ground with shit public services, high taxes and the threat of never being able to retire.
The problem with measuring success with amount of in employment is that companies and businesses will actually do everything they can to employ as few people as possible. They generally see employees as their largest waste and the more they can cut hours a jobs the better it is for their profits
Rampant greed and wealth disparity will eventually destroy society.
How are these people surviving? I get complaints about poor wages, broken social contract etc but how do these people afford to live?
But are the rich people okay? Doesn’t anyone think about the rich people?!?!?!?!?
I’m not surprised. I see all these job vacancies with ludicrous expectations for minimum wage (when buying power is practically worthless) where you’ll be competing with hundreds of other people, assuming the listing is even real, which a majority are not.
wage stagnation, majority of jobs are shit and dont allow you to reach your potential, companies train hardly anyone, every job wants 3 years experience, huge requirement lists on every job that are impossible to meet entirely, entry level still wants experience, too many people not enough jobs, immigration = more competion for lower salaries, automation = less demand for workers, if you have a gap = unemployable, Autism or mental health = unemployable, no connections = harder to find something, AI used to autoreject, too many hoops, outdated interview practices, multistage interviews, fake job listing’s, ghost jobs, why hire more people if you can work the ones you have a but more?, genz are lazy, rise of contract jobs with no rights, WFH = lazy.
or do BBC know this already but would rather just suck up to the lazy young people agenda?
As someone who’s 21 and unemployed. I would do any job. The issues I face are I either live too far (I live in a village so I have to look for jobs in the next town over) or I need years of experience just to be considered for an interview.
What opportunities 😭 where are these jobs? The 4 hour contract and you’re not allowed to take other work? Those? Or the ones that you need years, and gargantuan amounts of self financed investment (with loan shark rates) whilst knowing the industry will either wither out, be moved to offshore workers, or controlled by AI?
wow… ‘I received an honors degree, thank you ChatGPT’
Yeah it’s the ever increasing effects of Inequality, Not surprising when greed is the overwhelming factor behind nearly everything.
a lot of them of probably trying to work out what jobs they can actually do that isn’t going to get taken over by ai in the very near future…no point studying something for years at uni, if ai will do it better…estimated 40% of jobs will be gone due to ai in the next decade so not great prospects
Me and my partner together on our wage can just afford our house it’s insane
In the Welsh Valleys were I grew up, I searched for just any basic job when I hit 16. Could have been a cashier at Spar, worker at McDees, stocker at Tesco, I wasn’t picky. There’s no real industry where I lived, so I couldn’t be picky.
Had no luck until I was 17 when I got a job at a service station on the M4. Obviously that needed a car, and I was lucky enough to have my Dad drive me back and forth each day. Until my Dad became disabled and stuck in a wheelchair, then I had no way to get to work.
Cars, along with lessons and tests costs money, if my Dad didn’t already have a car I’d be searching a lot lot longer, I’d need a job to get a car, but I wouldn’t have a car without a job. I wouldn’t be able to move somewhere with better job prospects, because that needed money – money I wouldn’t have with no job.
No job, no money, no money, no job, no job, no job.