NASA, Yale, and Stanford Scientists Consider ‘Scientific Exile,’ French University Says | “We are witnessing a new brain drain.”
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NASA, Yale, and Stanford Scientists Consider ‘Scientific Exile,’ French University Says | “We are witnessing a new brain drain.”
https://www.404media.co/nasa-yale-and-stanford-scientists-consider-scientific-exile-french-university-says/
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From the article: Last week, Aix Marseille University, France’s largest university, invited American scientists who believe their work is at risk of being censored by Donald Trump administration’s anti-science policies to continue their research in France. Today, the university announced that it is already seeing great interest from scientists at NASA, Yale, Stanford, and other American schools and government agencies, and that it wants to expand the program to other schools and European countries to absorb all the researchers who want to leave the United States.
“We are witnessing a new brain drain,” Éric Berton, Aix Marseille University’s president, said in a press release. “We will do everything in our power to help as many scientists as possible continue their research. However, we cannot meet all demands on our own. The Ministry of Education and Research is fully supporting and assisting us in this effort, which is intended to expand at both national and European levels.”
The press release from the university claims that researchers from Stanford, Yale, NASA, the National Institute of Health, George Washington University, “and about 15 other prestigious institutions,” are now considering “scientific exile.” More than 40 American scientists have expressed interest in the program, it said. Their key research areas are “health (LGBT+ medicine, epidemiology, infectious diseases, inequalities, immunology, etc.), environment and climate change (natural disaster management, greenhouse gases, social impact, artificial intelligence), humanities and social sciences (communication, psychology, history, cultural heritage), astrophysics.”
“The current Executive Orders have led to a termination of one of my research grants. While it was not a lot of money, it was a high profile, large national study,” one researcher who has reached out to Aix Marseille University in order to take advantage of the program told me. 404 Media granted the researcher anonymity because speaking about the program might jeopardize their current position at a leading American university. “While I have not had to lay off staff as a result of that particular cancellation, I will have to lay off staff if additional projects are terminated. Everything I focus on is now a banned word.”
Yeah, this is what I’m afraid of. It’s not uncommon for authoritarians to start going after intellectuals eventually. You might as well try to leave now.
Brain drain in real-time. If top scientists are bouncing, things are about to get interesting
Very good news for Europe. Very bad news for the colonies.
No one is going anywhere. The USA is the center of world for scientific discoveries, research, business and individual pay. No one can compare. There is a reason why there are only 6 or 7 EU companies that are worth over $200b (and half are luxury clothing brands) and why most Europeans would gladly be US citizens – this is the place to make money scale up your life. EU is the place to be if you’re comfortable with mediocrity, which is okay but it’s not everyones boat.
There isn’t going to be a brain drain into the EU, because it’s a pain in the ass to make money there. It’s as simple as that.
OPs article is just bullshit meant to get engagement.
Scientists go where they are supported, where they can do their research. If Trump and his minions pull back on funding they WILL leave.
Hate people who spam the same post on multiple forums.
Especially for clickbait shit. Get a job you karma farmer. Or at least some values. It’s just a number.
“The first thing to realize about all this is that it is unprecedented. By now that seems clear to those of us who’ve been following the story, but there are large parts of the public that don’t realize this part yet. The problem is deep, and it is wide. These are not the usual budget cuts, which much of the time in politics are nothing more than lower increases than expected, and these are not the usual cries from people who feel that their particular budget is being unfairly targeted. *No one has ever ripped into scientific funding like this*. The Trump team has attacked it as if it were some evil imposed on us by an invading enemy, and the damage is so large and so widespread already that it’s hard to even explain.
Preparation for next year’s flu vaccine has to start taking place now, but that process has been halted. Grant money that has been going to university research groups and medical centers all fifty states has been throttled. There are clinical trials have been stopped in their tracks. Reviews of new drugs before the FDA have been thrown into confusion, as has the CDC’s work on tracking and understanding the bird flu epidemic. I could go on and on listing things, but let’s just say that if you were (for some bizarre reason) deliberately and suddenly trying to ruin biomedical research in the US, *you would do it just like this”*.
[From Derek Lowe](https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/continuing-crisis-part-vii-overview)
Well it’s clear that the current administration is hostile to science in general at this point. I wouldn’t want to stay in a country where my results need to conform to whatever the current politics are, I too would leave and go to a country that’s still sane(ish)
And that’s the way, uh huh uh huh, oligarchs like it! Uh huh uh huh!
Anybody seen the movie Idiocracy?
Now is it’s prequel…
whatever…..if NASA scientists wanna give up with pensions knock yourself out. If Yale and Harvard scientists wanna lose their tenturesehip over a 4 year presidency knock themselves out. I’m sure the Chinese would pay top dollar…..oh wait most these scientists already taking CCP money
Yeah I am spending time refreshing on my second language, I know other PhDs that are doing the same.
When the feds are prosecuting green grant recipients who wouldn’t jump ship if able?
They’re better off in France, TBH. France is a far more tolerant country and the French have better fashion sense.
“anti-science” -> “LGBT+ medicine + climate change”
LOL
“We’re gonna win so much, you’ll get tired of winning” LMAO Trumptards will defend this too just watch
Sounds horrible! …then you read the alleged fields impacted:
“health (LGBT+ medicine, epidemiology, infectious diseases, inequalities, immunology, etc.), environment and climate change (natural disaster management, greenhouse gases, social impact, artificial intelligence), humanities and social sciences (communication, psychology, history, cultural heritage), astrophysics.”
Yeah, I think the US will be okay.
Seriously, China concocts a Covid virus affecting the world and every scientist shuts the fuck up , then trump gets elected and all of a sudden conflicts of interest.
The Trump administration is cutting funding from all kinds of government programs, not just scientific research.