A high-profile network of investors and founders in Silicon Valley are promoting a new moral vision for the tech industry, in which job choices and other decisions are guided not by the pursuit of wealth, but according to Christian values and Western cultural frameworks.
At an event in San Francisco last week hosted in a former church, Trae Stephens, cofounder of the defense contractor Anduril, And a partner at the Peter Thiel–led venture capital firm Founders Fund, characterized the idea as the pursuit of “good quests” or careers that make the future better, a concept that he said has theological underpinnings.
“I’m literally an arms dealer,” Stephens said at one point, prompting laughter from the crowd of roughly 200 people, which included Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan. “I don’t think all of you should be arms dealers, but that’s a pretty unique calling.”
The hour-long discussion was part of a series of ticketed gatherings organized by ACTS 17 Collective, a nonprofit founded last year by Stephens’ wife, health care startup executive Michelle Stephens.
The group, whose name is an acronym that stands for “Acknowledging Christ in Technology and Society,” is on a mission to “redefine success for those that define culture,” she says.
In Michelle’s view, tech workers mostly believe in arbitrary metrics of success, like money and power, leaving some of them feeling empty and hopeless. She wants them to believe instead that “success can be defined as loving God, myself, and others.”
People of all denominations—including atheists—are welcome at ACT 17 events. Last Thursday’s event had low-key party vibes. Bartenders served beer and wine, a DJ was spinning light worship beats, and prayer booklets rested on a table.
The idea for ACTS 17 and a speaker series on faith actually took root at a party, Michelle says. In November 2023, during a three-day 40th birthday party for Trae in New Mexico, Peter Thiel led a talk on miracles and forgiveness. Guests were intrigued.
“Folks were coming up to us saying things like, ‘I didn’t know Peter is a Christian,’ ‘How can you be gay and a billionaire and be Christian?’, ‘I didn’t know you could be smart and a Christian,’ and ‘What can you give me to read or listen to learn more?’” Michelle says.
The Stephens have long-standing connections to Thiel. In addition to helping start Anduril and working at Founders Fund, Trae was also an early employee at data intelligence firm Palantir, a company cofounded by Thiel that develops tools used by the US military.
At the ACTS 17 last Thursday, Trae appeared to echo a number of ideas Thiel has also espoused about technology and Christianity. He emphasized that jobs outside the church can be sacred, citing Martin Luther’s work during the Protestant Reformation.
“The roles that we’re called into are not only important and valuable on a personal level, but it’s also critical to carry out God’s command to bring his kingdom to Earth as it is in heaven,” Trae said.
Thiel made nearly identical comments in a 2015 essay arguing that technological progress should be accelerated. Science and technology, he wrote, are natural allies of “Judeo-Western optimism,” especially if “we remain open to an eschatological frame in which God works through us in building the kingdom of heaven today, here on Earth.”
“I’m literally an arms dealer,” Stephens said at one point, prompting laughter from the crowd of roughly 200 people, which included Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan. “I don’t think all of you should be arms dealers, but that’s a pretty unique calling.”
satire is dead
runthepoint1 on
The true sign of their actual acceptance of all of this talk is when they themselves show public humility and are able to be examples of this.
Not to show how perfect they are but to show their admission of guilt and repentance are good things to emulate. After all, as the Bible says, we shall know them by their deeds. Let’s focus on what they do, not on what they say. Yes I acknowledge speech is action, but let’s be careful not to hear their overall message.
Is it humility? Or not?
HardPass404 on
Decisions made in the pursuit of wealth are immoral! Now where are the altar boys? – The Church
DeadWaterBed on
Grifters, the lot of them. Suddenly the rich and powerful are remembering just how easy a target Christian tend to be.
ploomyoctopus on
“People of all denominations—including atheists—are welcome at ACT 17 events.”
Here’s the thing. As a lifelong nonbeliever, I can’t imaging *wanting* to be at these events. I don’t want to go to church. Honestly, I only want to hang out out with religious people if there’s no mention of religion. I sure as hell don’t want to go to some tech bro’s Peter-Thiel wet dream of “heaven on earth.” Falls into the category to me of Christians being insufferable.
Religion is like a penis. It’s all well and good if you want to share it with people who are interested, but keep it out of public, keep it away from unwilling partners, and *definitely* keep it away from children and people who can’t consent.
Livid_Discipline_184 on
Old you please just build it somewhere else please.
MadeWithRove on
Dogmas upon dogmas. Leaders upon leaders. I see no collective revolution nor human heaven here. Just old gods taking new disguises.
eblack4012 on
Thiel definitely needs to pray. I’d pray too if I had several men’s fists inside me at the same time.
loco500 on
Since scripture says that they are unlikely to get pass the Pearly Gates, and there’s no banking branches up there, seems like this is the only to make themselves feel good…
GUNxSPECTRE on
Remember that story where Jesus used his miraculous power to duplicate all that fish and bread, and then sold it to his congregation at inflated prices? That was the reason Pontius Pilate and other Roman oligarchs nailed him to the cross. He apparently invented greedflation.
And these are the people that unironically talk about the Antichrist and false prophets.
gs87 on
So they want a religious corporation like Severance TV show ?
Area51_Spurs on
You know, I was just thinking that tech bros need to insert religion into their shtick. I was wondering why tech bros have settled on just being the worst, when they really are capable of being the absolute worst to ever exist. It’s ~~good~~ terrible to see them reaching for the stars.
EmmaLouLove on
“At an event in San Francisco last week hosted in a former church, Trae Stephens, cofounder of the defense contractor Anduril and a partner at the Peter Thiel …”
You lost me at Peter Thiel. Be wary of sheep in wolf’s clothing. Thiel is the Billionaire who funded JD Vance’s unqualified rise to Vice President. Anyone can claim to be a Christian to sway the populous. We saw this with Trump in 2016 when he pandered to evangelicals, to rise to the presidency, in exchange for overturning Roe.
Thiel, Vance and their friend, Curtis Yarvin, are part of a far right movement where they view Trump as a tool for their crazy ideas. Think Project 2025 on steroids, or as it has been called, conservatism’s “terrifying future”.
Thiel once wrote, “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” Seeing how easily evangelicals and a large percentage of our population was duped by Trump confirms people will believe anything.
HopelessNegativism on
Why can’t they build themselves a heaven on mars and leave the rest of us the hell alone
qning on
“guided not by the pursuit of wealth, but according to Christian values and Western cultural frameworks.”
So… the pursuit of wealth then?
Electric_Banana_6969 on
When did society collectively agree to give idiots a platform?
rosneft_perot on
Ah good! Broligarch Religious fanatics. The perfect combo of people we need less of.
RedLicoriceJunkie on
The crazy part is they just strip away more and more of the husk of Christianity to make their claims. In the 1980s & 1990s they claimed they were “proselytizing” globally and “saving sinners” and that is why they needed all the grandparents money, to fulfill that calling. A calling that for all its bullshit, was actually tied to the Bible and Jesus Christ in some way.
Now they just say “Jesus wants us to be rich” with people like Joel Osteen. A calling which just really isn’t in the Bible. The Bible says if you follow and have faith in God you will be prosperous, but wealth is not the end goal the way these modern day snake oil salesmen have couched it.
polypolip on
It came to the point that just reading “Christian values and Western framework” makes all dogs in the block bark.
An arms dealer talking about Christian values and “good quests”.
Unable_Apartment_613 on
If they think that’s even possible they’re already not Christians.
MossWatson on
“a DJ was spinning light worship beats”
*sigh* what? Nevermind, I don’t want to know.
Tayuven on
I love how a bad quest is an “NFT Marketplace,” but a good quest is selling arms, creating AI super intelligence, and making yourself immortal. I’m sure heaven really is full of automated mass surveillance, techno-city fiefdoms, and subscription services for every last thing you can think of. Absolutely no other problems that we could possibly need to solve. Also, it’s amazing how all these noble quests line up perfectly with granting them unlimited money, power, and life. So very Christian of them.
Tayuven on
I love how a bad quest is an “NFT Marketplace,” but a good quest is selling arms, creating AI super intelligence, and making yourself immortal. I’m sure heaven really is full of automated mass surveillance, techno-city fiefdoms, and subscription services for every last thing you can think of. Absolutely no other problems that we could possibly need to solve. Also, it’s amazing how all these noble quests line up perfectly with granting them unlimited money, power, and life. So very Christian of them.
Deatheturtle on
They can certanly make it heaven on earth……by leaving the rest of us alone.
OratioFidelis on
Jesus hated rich people.
“You cannot serve God and wealth.” (Matthew 6:24)
“How hard it is for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” (Luke 18:24-25)
Bonus: the first Christians shared all things in common (Acts 2:44-45, 4:32) like proto-communists and regularly condemned the rich (e.g. James 5:1-6).
Jeveran on
Real Christians shouldn’t have to tell you they’re Christian for you to know; their actions ought to speak for them.
Unusual-Bench1000 on
I remember my past life where we sacked the city of Galatia, tearing through hundreds of people and installing our own dozen people to re-manage the husked city (sounds efficient yeah?). We had no real clue that it took hundreds of people to run a city, to get rewards like incomes from strangers, so the end result was pretty depressing. Something about Christians wanting things? Not all world takeover plans are useful, from my experience. And the laws in the books, those are former government laws, of nations that have collapsed at times.
Mental_Reaction4697 on
>’I didn’t know you could be smart and a Christian’
this is not a serious article.
Deep_Joke3141 on
So whose version of Jesus are they talking about? White nationalist born in the USA Jesus , or brown skin loves everyone Jesus?
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A high-profile network of investors and founders in Silicon Valley are promoting a new moral vision for the tech industry, in which job choices and other decisions are guided not by the pursuit of wealth, but according to Christian values and Western cultural frameworks.
At an event in San Francisco last week hosted in a former church, Trae Stephens, cofounder of the defense contractor Anduril, And a partner at the Peter Thiel–led venture capital firm Founders Fund, characterized the idea as the pursuit of “good quests” or careers that make the future better, a concept that he said has theological underpinnings.
“I’m literally an arms dealer,” Stephens said at one point, prompting laughter from the crowd of roughly 200 people, which included Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan. “I don’t think all of you should be arms dealers, but that’s a pretty unique calling.”
The hour-long discussion was part of a series of ticketed gatherings organized by ACTS 17 Collective, a nonprofit founded last year by Stephens’ wife, health care startup executive Michelle Stephens.
The group, whose name is an acronym that stands for “Acknowledging Christ in Technology and Society,” is on a mission to “redefine success for those that define culture,” she says.
In Michelle’s view, tech workers mostly believe in arbitrary metrics of success, like money and power, leaving some of them feeling empty and hopeless. She wants them to believe instead that “success can be defined as loving God, myself, and others.”
People of all denominations—including atheists—are welcome at ACT 17 events. Last Thursday’s event had low-key party vibes. Bartenders served beer and wine, a DJ was spinning light worship beats, and prayer booklets rested on a table.
The idea for ACTS 17 and a speaker series on faith actually took root at a party, Michelle says. In November 2023, during a three-day 40th birthday party for Trae in New Mexico, Peter Thiel led a talk on miracles and forgiveness. Guests were intrigued.
“Folks were coming up to us saying things like, ‘I didn’t know Peter is a Christian,’ ‘How can you be gay and a billionaire and be Christian?’, ‘I didn’t know you could be smart and a Christian,’ and ‘What can you give me to read or listen to learn more?’” Michelle says.
The Stephens have long-standing connections to Thiel. In addition to helping start Anduril and working at Founders Fund, Trae was also an early employee at data intelligence firm Palantir, a company cofounded by Thiel that develops tools used by the US military.
At the ACTS 17 last Thursday, Trae appeared to echo a number of ideas Thiel has also espoused about technology and Christianity. He emphasized that jobs outside the church can be sacred, citing Martin Luther’s work during the Protestant Reformation.
“The roles that we’re called into are not only important and valuable on a personal level, but it’s also critical to carry out God’s command to bring his kingdom to Earth as it is in heaven,” Trae said.
Thiel made nearly identical comments in a 2015 essay arguing that technological progress should be accelerated. Science and technology, he wrote, are natural allies of “Judeo-Western optimism,” especially if “we remain open to an eschatological frame in which God works through us in building the kingdom of heaven today, here on Earth.”
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“I’m literally an arms dealer,” Stephens said at one point, prompting laughter from the crowd of roughly 200 people, which included Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan. “I don’t think all of you should be arms dealers, but that’s a pretty unique calling.”
satire is dead
The true sign of their actual acceptance of all of this talk is when they themselves show public humility and are able to be examples of this.
Not to show how perfect they are but to show their admission of guilt and repentance are good things to emulate. After all, as the Bible says, we shall know them by their deeds. Let’s focus on what they do, not on what they say. Yes I acknowledge speech is action, but let’s be careful not to hear their overall message.
Is it humility? Or not?
Decisions made in the pursuit of wealth are immoral! Now where are the altar boys? – The Church
Grifters, the lot of them. Suddenly the rich and powerful are remembering just how easy a target Christian tend to be.
“People of all denominations—including atheists—are welcome at ACT 17 events.”
Here’s the thing. As a lifelong nonbeliever, I can’t imaging *wanting* to be at these events. I don’t want to go to church. Honestly, I only want to hang out out with religious people if there’s no mention of religion. I sure as hell don’t want to go to some tech bro’s Peter-Thiel wet dream of “heaven on earth.” Falls into the category to me of Christians being insufferable.
Religion is like a penis. It’s all well and good if you want to share it with people who are interested, but keep it out of public, keep it away from unwilling partners, and *definitely* keep it away from children and people who can’t consent.
Old you please just build it somewhere else please.
Dogmas upon dogmas. Leaders upon leaders. I see no collective revolution nor human heaven here. Just old gods taking new disguises.
Thiel definitely needs to pray. I’d pray too if I had several men’s fists inside me at the same time.
Since scripture says that they are unlikely to get pass the Pearly Gates, and there’s no banking branches up there, seems like this is the only to make themselves feel good…
Remember that story where Jesus used his miraculous power to duplicate all that fish and bread, and then sold it to his congregation at inflated prices? That was the reason Pontius Pilate and other Roman oligarchs nailed him to the cross. He apparently invented greedflation.
And these are the people that unironically talk about the Antichrist and false prophets.
So they want a religious corporation like Severance TV show ?
You know, I was just thinking that tech bros need to insert religion into their shtick. I was wondering why tech bros have settled on just being the worst, when they really are capable of being the absolute worst to ever exist. It’s ~~good~~ terrible to see them reaching for the stars.
“At an event in San Francisco last week hosted in a former church, Trae Stephens, cofounder of the defense contractor Anduril and a partner at the Peter Thiel …”
You lost me at Peter Thiel. Be wary of sheep in wolf’s clothing. Thiel is the Billionaire who funded JD Vance’s unqualified rise to Vice President. Anyone can claim to be a Christian to sway the populous. We saw this with Trump in 2016 when he pandered to evangelicals, to rise to the presidency, in exchange for overturning Roe.
Thiel, Vance and their friend, Curtis Yarvin, are part of a far right movement where they view Trump as a tool for their crazy ideas. Think Project 2025 on steroids, or as it has been called, conservatism’s “terrifying future”.
Thiel once wrote, “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” Seeing how easily evangelicals and a large percentage of our population was duped by Trump confirms people will believe anything.
Why can’t they build themselves a heaven on mars and leave the rest of us the hell alone
“guided not by the pursuit of wealth, but according to Christian values and Western cultural frameworks.”
So… the pursuit of wealth then?
When did society collectively agree to give idiots a platform?
Ah good! Broligarch Religious fanatics. The perfect combo of people we need less of.
The crazy part is they just strip away more and more of the husk of Christianity to make their claims. In the 1980s & 1990s they claimed they were “proselytizing” globally and “saving sinners” and that is why they needed all the grandparents money, to fulfill that calling. A calling that for all its bullshit, was actually tied to the Bible and Jesus Christ in some way.
Now they just say “Jesus wants us to be rich” with people like Joel Osteen. A calling which just really isn’t in the Bible. The Bible says if you follow and have faith in God you will be prosperous, but wealth is not the end goal the way these modern day snake oil salesmen have couched it.
It came to the point that just reading “Christian values and Western framework” makes all dogs in the block bark.
An arms dealer talking about Christian values and “good quests”.
If they think that’s even possible they’re already not Christians.
“a DJ was spinning light worship beats”
*sigh* what? Nevermind, I don’t want to know.
I love how a bad quest is an “NFT Marketplace,” but a good quest is selling arms, creating AI super intelligence, and making yourself immortal. I’m sure heaven really is full of automated mass surveillance, techno-city fiefdoms, and subscription services for every last thing you can think of. Absolutely no other problems that we could possibly need to solve. Also, it’s amazing how all these noble quests line up perfectly with granting them unlimited money, power, and life. So very Christian of them.
I love how a bad quest is an “NFT Marketplace,” but a good quest is selling arms, creating AI super intelligence, and making yourself immortal. I’m sure heaven really is full of automated mass surveillance, techno-city fiefdoms, and subscription services for every last thing you can think of. Absolutely no other problems that we could possibly need to solve. Also, it’s amazing how all these noble quests line up perfectly with granting them unlimited money, power, and life. So very Christian of them.
They can certanly make it heaven on earth……by leaving the rest of us alone.
Jesus hated rich people.
“You cannot serve God and wealth.” (Matthew 6:24)
“How hard it is for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God! Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” (Luke 18:24-25)
Bonus: the first Christians shared all things in common (Acts 2:44-45, 4:32) like proto-communists and regularly condemned the rich (e.g. James 5:1-6).
Real Christians shouldn’t have to tell you they’re Christian for you to know; their actions ought to speak for them.
I remember my past life where we sacked the city of Galatia, tearing through hundreds of people and installing our own dozen people to re-manage the husked city (sounds efficient yeah?). We had no real clue that it took hundreds of people to run a city, to get rewards like incomes from strangers, so the end result was pretty depressing. Something about Christians wanting things? Not all world takeover plans are useful, from my experience. And the laws in the books, those are former government laws, of nations that have collapsed at times.
>’I didn’t know you could be smart and a Christian’
this is not a serious article.
So whose version of Jesus are they talking about? White nationalist born in the USA Jesus , or brown skin loves everyone Jesus?