Labour MPs handed plea to ‘take a stand’ against welfare cuts as backlash grows

Reintroduce the bankers bonus cap.

Raise VAT on private health firms.

Close the taxpayer subsidised bars in Parliament.

Order King Charles to reimburse the taxpayers for paying for Prince Andrew’s legal fees (£12 million if I remember right).

Triple the fines on companies that pollute our rivers and beaches with sewage.

But of course, none of these things will happen.

Cutting benefits is an easy decision – the disabled can’t do anything to stop it.

But raising taxes on the rich is a tough decision – it means those rich donors will stop giving Sir Kid Harmer his free suits and Taylor Swift concert tickets.

We don’t live in a democracy. We live in an oligarchy.

We’re led by murderers who prioritise their personal financial wealth over the survival of the very people they’re meant to protect and serve.

People don’t understand the fact the kind of welfare system we currently have is unsustainable and as cruel as people perceive the cuts we just can’t afford to have people Not Working

Labour are responding to a reality they are not just being meanies for fun all of the suggested remedies you’ll see on this thread about taxing billionaires et cetera et cetera are unrealistic. We just can’t have a system where Large numbers of people who contribute nothing to the creation of this country’s wealth are able to subtract from that wealth.

The system was designed for small numbers of desperate people. It can’t work with large numbers of people.

The UK has embraced austerity for years. If it worked, you’d see the benefits of it

we’re gonna end up with reform dipshits in power aren’t we

If you are a small business owner you really should be protesting these welfare cuts. Many working people receive benefits in addition to the disabled.

Surely with water companies, because they are providing water (a public service and human right), they can come up with some bullshit regulations to stop their profiteering without compromising the UK’s attractiveness to other businesses.

Special rules put in place for water companies because IT’S FUCKING WATER

There’s a billion things they could do to save money and make money instead off just kicking those who are the worst off and can’t fight back.

But that would require them to actually have a grip on reality.

Just another bunch off Tories in red ties. It blows my mind how they wonder why everyone is so disillusioned with politics.

Why is everyone focussing on what people on benefits actually get?

How do people know that the money spent on welfare benefits all goes into the bank accounts of claimants?

I mean how much money is involved in running the Universal Credit system or administering PIP? How much does one assessment cost to carry out? How much of the money spent on welfare is going to profit-making companies? In comparison to legacy benefits, how much more expensive is Universal Credit to administer and run?

For all we know only a fraction of what is being spent on welfare is actually going to the claimants or pay the wages of civil servants such as work coaches.

I find it very interesting that many people it seems trust the government and system – the exact same system which delivered us Brexit, Boris Johnson and Liz Truss – yet they’re very willing to believe that people who are sick and disabled are somehow pretending to be disabled or sick to game the system so they can somehow live off poverty level benefits.

Why are some of us judging people’s worth, value, integrity and morals on the basis of their financial worth and income? The way I see it how much money someone has and where they get their income from has no relationship whatsoever to their character, their worth or their value to society?

This is important because we’re discussing the high costs of welfare benefits. How much costs are swallowed up by profit making companies simply because we do not trust people on benefits and assume them to be immoral, lazy and unproductive? Why are private sector profit making companies carrying out independent assessments for PIP and LCWRA involving healthcare professionals when we have healthcare professionals working in the NHS? Why are we assessing Universal Credit claims every month? How much money are profit making corporations and entities such as Capita and Ingeus making for courses and training for people which do not result in paid employment for the participants?

I’m not disputing that the costs of welfare are too high and it’s unsustainable but what I am questioning is how much of this money being spent is actually going into people’s bank accounts and going back into the economy. The way I see it profit making companies have no business getting involved in the benefits system because it is immoral to profit off other people’s misery, hardship and suffering. The welfare state should at least be strictly non-profit making if not self financing.

I also want to point out that Universal Credit fails on three of its four stated objectives. It does not get children out of poverty. It does not help people into work outside of a strategy of benefit sanctions, fear motivation and thinly veiled threats. It does not always support people into work because as many people have found out beyond a certain point the support gets cut off and they’re left to fend for themselves. The rules of Universal Credit are rigid and inflexible and cannot deal with the diversity of reasons why people need welfare benefits to support themselves. So there has to be the question in why are we paying more for a system which is less efficient than legacy benefits?

Instead of arguing why we should be cutting benefits and throwing people into destitution, I strongly feel we need to be questioning the system and its efficiency and whether it actually works and does what it’s intended to do.

The state pension is a welfare benefit, scrap the triple lock

My friend works but has severe ocd and claims PIP, that just about covers her water bill each month from the increased amount she uses from showers etc.

Of course she’d love to get treatment for it but with the NHS being how it is that isn’t real possible either.

You need one or the other. Take away both and I can only see them getting worse and costing the system more with a breakdown and being taken out of the job market.

Handed plea by those on the gravy train that don’t want to lose their benefits and have to go out and work.