Snag clothing gets 100 complaints a day that models are too fat, says boss

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say, if you’re obese you shouldn’t accepting of that. It’s not ok. I’m overweight myself and I’m not going to accept it.

Probably less complains than many brands get for models being too thin.

I don’t see a problem with models of all different body types. No one is claiming the woman in the picture is attractive or being encouraged to look like her. People of a similar body type need to know how their clothes will fit.

Body shaming is politically incorrect, but you should feel shame if you look like the model in this thumbnail. If you look like that, you are effectively tanking your own life expectancy and causing inconvenience to the people around you.

In my experience with obese people they will have no issue making fun of skinny people but it’s immoral and inhumane to call them the ‘f’ word.. and also, thanks for turning commonly used parlance and medical terminologies like ‘fat’ and ‘obese’ into dirty words.

They will whine about being fat on a daily basis but be offended if YOU call them fat. They will blame being fat for all their miseries in life but continue to eat when when they’re sad, eat when they’re happy, eat when they’re hungry, eat because why not, eat breakfast, eat lunch, eat dinner, eat because they feel like a binge and eat because they feel like a snack, while doing little to no exercise.

They snore loudly and they sweat profusely, but they won’t recognise or acknowledge that people can’t sleep around them or that they smell terrible.

Encounter them in a corridor and they expect YOU to move, because you obviously can’t both fit in a space that’s designed to be wide enough for people to pass each other. They expect bigger chairs and benches from society and they expect employers to accommodate them in doing less work than everyone else.

I used to, but after my experiences with a bunch of absolute cunts, I no longer have any sympathy for fat people.

>But Snag founder Ms Read says: “Shaming fat people does not help them to lose weight and actually it really impacts mental health and therefore their physical health.”
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>She thinks the idea of banning adverts showing models with bigger bodies is a symptom of society’s “fat phobia”.

So banning adverts of thin models is good because it stops people aspiring to be thin and is not labeled thin-fobia. But banning ads with fat people is fat-fobia – not the normalising of being at a critically obese and unhealthy weight?

In no way should people be encouraged towards staying at a larger weight – that is to say, higher fat percentage. If that means not applauding, grand standing and main eventing obese people by using them in ads, as models etc. so be it.

It is fact that overweight and obese people are an unnecessary drain on medical resource and have a lower quality of life. Doctors should not fear complaints because they have said a patient needs to lose weight. People should not be ashamed for thinking obesity is disgusting.

Fat body positivity is a mask purely to guard fat and obese people from their own lack of self discipline. And their mental health crisis’ from being shamed is a reflection of their own inner thoughts. They’re just too unwilling to do the hard work themselves.

Edit: Spelling

Clothing models should represent different body types and shapes within ordinary range. This means it’s okay for some models to be on the skinny side, and for others to be in that obese category as far as BMI is concerned.

However, there is a limit. Being severely, morbidly overweight or severely underweight is a dangerous health problem. It should not be normalised in the media. If you have a severe weight problem you should not be looking for representation, you should be looking for help. It’s morally wrong to pander to it.

I doubt they get 100 negative comments per day.

Seems like self promotion to me.

Some may have thyroid issues, other problems, some mightn’t. My friend can’t exercise due to asthma, nor can she lose weight due to needing steroids years ago.

There’s not really a way out that won’t hurt her further, and she hates it, but can’t really do anything about it without causing herself more harm.

And I understand. She doesn’t want to be like this but genuinely can’t help it, and her docs are ridiculous. How can she lose weight when exercise triggers asthma?

Others who don’t have disabilities/thyroid issues etc… I’d worry about my heart, were it me.

Body positivity is good, really good, we need more not-thin, and disabled bodies… but there’s a limit. Those models aren’t on My 600lb Life or something, and they look healthy and happy.

If people are healthy and happy, leave them be.

I work in public health and have occasional chats about this with the doctors on lunch. All of the senior consultants agree that the “body positivity” movement is extremely harmful, both to the individual and to wider society.

Obesity is a disease that needs to be treated, not a part of your identity. It is not something to be celebrated, which seems to be an idea that so many of these fashion brands pander to.

Fashion brands like snag don’t care about people with obesity, they see them as an opportunity to make money. They certainly don’t care about the long-term costs to the NHS that come from keeping fat people happy in their skin. Increased risk of cardiovascular diseases obviously. Greater chance of developing cancer of all types. Greater risk of dying from respiratory infections. The list goes on.

Body positivity adverts are no different to smoking adverts, or gambling adverts; in terms of the societal and personal harm they cause. Obesity is a public health emergency, especially here in south Wales.

To be clear, myself and the clinicians I work with agree that shaming fat people is unequivocally the wrong approach to take. It won’t change people’s lifestyle choices and habits. You want to use the carrot to encourage people, not the stick to beat them down. But a good start would be to stop publicly promoting people with obesity, in fashion and in other arenas.

We also say the same thing about the other extreme too. The fashion brands that used to parade an ultra-thin Kate Moss back in the day were also culpable in promoting extremely harmful lifestyles. Anorexia is a disease just as much as obesity.

Fat lasses need clothes too! Tights are a bugger, you need to at least know they’re not going to stretch and show everything… which people would complain about too

Honestly it’s true . There’s nothing wrong with overweight models ; but now every other model you see advertising clothes is seriously overweight. It’s like these companies think makes them look inclusive or some shit. It’s time we stopped normalising obesity.

I forget which programme I caught a bit of, but it was something a about a group of women looking for love. One of them was clearly obese and the man was very honest in saying he didn’t find someone that large attractive. He also pointed out the things he didn’t like about others too, because he was asked! The very large woman stood up and said she beautiful as she was, which is half the problem.

We’ve spent the last however many years having adverts and social media telling people that being very fat is ok and not that it’s unhealthy. Vanity sizing has disguised the issue even more.

But she is too fat, and they should be incentivising slimmer healthier sized models for general health and not normalising obesity. It’s your own fault if you’re obese.

Talking about obesity on Reddit is exhausting and pointless.

If anyone thinks the cure for being overweight is as simple as eating less and moving more then I’m sorry but you need to get in the bin.

There are many reasons why one might be overweight and it’s not helpful to tell people to eat less and move more. Some of the smallest people I know eat huge amounts of food and have a sedentary life.

It’s so much easier to feel motivated to do something about your weight if people aren’t shaming you when you’re trying.

We’ve all learned you can’t tell someone with depression to just be happy so why would being overweight be so simple?

We should be advertising fashion with skinny folk to slightly overweight folk with no photoshop edits. You know, to how most of the population look like.

We should not be doing it with either anorexic/severely underweight people or morbidly obese people. Advertising both ends of the spectrum is bad, trying to normalise both things is bad because of how much it kills your health.

Obesity is probably near the top of societal health crisis, but it seems to be becoming more and more normalised every day. I’m not surprised some people might lash out at a world they see going insane

Another interesting point amongst all this is if you ever look at men’s clothes. Go on asos (as an example, because I know they display their models’ sizing details) and see how long it takes to find one under 5ft11

Oh I shouldn’t have read this when I’d just got up.