Disabled to get ‘right to try’ work without risk of losing benefits
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/government-labour-liz-kendall-keir-starmer-rachel-reeves-b1216932.html
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Disabled to get ‘right to try’ work without risk of losing benefits
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/government-labour-liz-kendall-keir-starmer-rachel-reeves-b1216932.html
Posted by No_Breadfruit_4901
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They should of done this from the start rather then put their foot in it yet again.
Why are we subsidising these parasitical, MPs?
We pay for everything.
But disabled people, living on benefits, which are nowhere near enough,, is unacceptable to these ghouls.
Kendal, et al, are fascists.
Are disability benefits really the area they should be focusing on? I’m sure there’s more to be saved elsewhere and in areas that much more palatable to the voter
It’s a silly policy because the reason many disabled people don’t take up their allocated work hours is that it can be used against them in situations like PIP. I’ve seen many PIP claims turned down because decision makers say the person’s currently working so claim is denied. However, many disabled individuals can work because PIP helps them remain in employment, as being disabled comes with additional costs.
Labour going after the most vulnerable is disgusting
Bloody hell, are you telling me that Labour are capable of sensible thinking if they just actually stop and think before opening their mouths, looking like idiots and then having to self reflect on what they have said.
Come on Labour do better. This is the kind of thinking people did vote for, not more Tory ideology in red clothing.
Still want Wes Streeting fired though.
My issue with this article is that people are allowed to to work whilst on UC and receive LCW or LCWRA. They are encouraged to work and have a work allowance which is tax free. Once they go over their allowance then a portion of their UC is reduced. It’s supposed to help people by creating a support structure that involves a scaffolding and very basic safety net.
People don’t get another work capability assessment for declaring they are entering employment or volunteering etc.
This makes no sense, why need a ‘right to try’, it shows you people don’t trust the government. How can you blame them after the treatment they receive from the DWP and how dishonest our politicians have been in recent times. It’s an admission if anything that these people have been failed.
To me it seems people don’t understand how the UC system works.
I also feel this is political game playing to appear ‘tough, just and fair’ as Labour have been accused of being too soft. They did this game playing with the lives of vulnerable people. Utter monsters.
An interesting idea for once. A shame it’s come with all the other nastiness
BUT THEY ALREADY HAD THE RIGHT.
[Permitted work.](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-permitted-work-form/permitted-work-factsheet)
This is nothing new. This is Labour trying to spin schemes that have been available for well over a decade as something new.
too much entitlement, only increases blue club and farage followers
money trees and thank you’s are rare as hens teeth
cant stop gotta be happy returning to tireless grind and work to pay more taxes, wonder why?
“200,000 people receiving health-related or disability benefits were ready to work if the right job or support was available.” – This is the crux of the issue really. The right job or support just doesn’t exist, especially as a reasonable adjustment for one person may not be reasonable for another.
I work for the NHS and it’s silently pretty much discouraged from having staff with complex needs. Those who put in for flexible working patterns are often told no, or allowed it for a “trial” period and then told it doesn’t meet the needs of the service. So those who want to work but need reasonable adjustments aren’t given it often feel forced out.
Equally reasonable adjustments for one often come as a negative to someone else. “X can’t do Y so you’ll have to pick up the slack” – Easy enough to say but can result in other staff feeling the brunt of the workload, especially in physical or repetitive tasks. Which to say is no one’s fault but a natural source of tension when it occurs.
They should generally offer more training and employment schemes to jobseekers, disabled or not (also a lot of “non-disabled” jobseekers still have disabilities or long-term conditions, but aren’t recognised because the administrative bar to clear to be recognised by DWP as limited by a disability is so high, particularly if they’re not being helped by a third-party advocate).
Also that woman’s (I’m assuming a Labour cabinet member) photo screams “professional managerial class”. But maybe her dad was a toolmaker or factory worker in the 80s, so she understands poor people. (sarcasm. The 80s isn’t the 2020s and being a child isn’t the same as having adult pressures)
Why wasn’t this ever a thing, most people who are unable to work would love the opportunity to try.
Eons overdue.
The current system just encourages people to stay on benefits forever because any attempt to hold a job means going through the nightmare of assessments and paperwork all over again.
The threshold for what counts as disabled has been lowered too much by woke politics, too many enablers, not enough tough titty. Result? Uk is fucked, we locked into zero growth debt death spiral.
In before its comes out all: “Forced to try. Not dead? Keep trying”
This could be a game-changer for so many people who *want* to work but are terrified of losing everything if it doesn’t pan out. Just hope it’s not another great on paper, nightmare in practice situation. But, the real test is whether the system actually supports disabled workers long-term or if this is just a PR move before quietly making life harder again. Trust, but verify.
Does she not know how PIP works? That’s pretty shocking of a DWP Sec to not know their own job.
Can someone ELI5 because I’m confused. I thought those with PIP were allowed to work anyway without any risk of losing their benefits? Is this different/not just for PIP?
We’ve known about this since their manifesto was released in June, but it’s now being framed as a ‘compromise’ alongside the recent announcement that they no longer plan to freeze PIP. I’ve also noticed a shift in rhetoric from Labour *definitely* changing PIP eligibility to *possibly* changing it.
While a “right to try guarantee” sounds like a good idea, I struggle to see how it would be implemented or what the uptake would be. Despite common misconceptions, disabled people can already work while claiming both the LCW and LCWRA components of Universal Credit, as well as PIP. With the exception of PIP, you simply need to declare any work in your Universal Credit journal.
For those on LCWRA, a work allowance applies before deductions:
* If your Universal Credit includes rent help, your work allowance is £379.
* If it doesn’t, your allowance is £631.
After this threshold, earnings are deducted at a rate of 55p per £1. Many people on LCWRA already work part-time, especially in roles that fit around their condition. Starting work does not trigger a reassessment unless your health condition changes.
So, I’m not sure what changes, if any, this so-called “right to try guarantee” will actually bring or how it will influence claimants’ attitudes toward trying work. At the end of the day, a very large proportion of claimants simply do not trust the DWP—and for very good reason. I see no reason why this “right to try guarantee” would suddenly change that or encourage claimants to take the risk.
Even though claimants wouldn’t face an immediate reassessment—just as they wouldn’t under current rules—many will still fear that trying to work, even if unsuccessful, could be used against them at their next reassessment. I can easily see the DWP, in its current state, turning around at a future reassessment and saying, *“See? You were able to work. Claim denied.”* Without fundamental changes to the way the DWP operates, I doubt many claimants will feel safe enough to take that risk.
Disabled people cannot work by definition. However for this government everyone is expected to work except refugees.
Work has to pay , I haven’t got the actual data but either government need to communicate clearly and honestly whether people are receiving more in benefits payments then what they’d get if they took any job.
I know not all disability is visible , employers also need to play ball to help those that need more support, reasonable adjustments etc after the pandemic and rise in home working perhaps it should make work more accessible
With some contact centers closing in favour of AI perhaps some suitable people on benefits could be utilised instead as well with increased defense spending some can be utilised with these extra jobs.
At least they’re trying something new and different to what’s gone before. Hopefully it won’t be made into a mess like the bedroom tax etc…
Maybe they also look at top ups too, say if can only work x hours on a small wage , top up to the average .
I would hope it’ll also improve people’s self worth and mental health by contributing without feeling losing out
Every person on benefits should have that right.
Not only that, but work part time, and companies that employ them should pay less tax.
It would benefit everyone.
I have a couple of friends that struggle to be able to work.
One has decided to.not even try: council house and benefits.
The other one has tried multiple times. No benefits, no council house.
So the one doing what “we say should be done” is the one we crushed.
How about we give the wealthy the chance to try paying more tax? Isn’t it about time we made them cough up somehow?
Watch them sneak in penalties for refusing job offers that are lower in pay than their benefits. Besides is there any guarantee that employers will come onboard?
All the same, I hope that the DWP, UC, and half arsed Labour Govt will honour their words.