Liz Kendall says young people will be pushed to join the army to cut youth unemployment
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2028908/liz-kendall-says-young-people
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Liz Kendall says young people will be pushed to join the army to cut youth unemployment
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2028908/liz-kendall-says-young-people
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Theres the other shoe. Not a drive to help people with disabilities get jobs, not under 22s miraculously being immune to disease and disability, just a conscription by stealth.
Ridiculous once again. Young people aren’t getting hired in this Job Market. We shouldn’t have to fight for a country that doesn’t help us.
Kicked off benefits and sent to Ukraine.
How many people are on benefits here that have been very vocal about getting more involved in Ukraine? 🤔
I guess cutting mass migration to reduce competition in the job market is not an option then.
I swear there’s a Yes Minister episode with this exact plotline.
So you want young people to fight for a country that wont protect them if they become disabled. How fucked up can this government get !
And when they sit in a capita Queue for 2 years what will happen? T
“Instead of *treating* the sick, perhaps we should be *eating* the sick? That would free up some beds, eh?”
No, I’d not want that to be pushed on the youth – I would however be in favour of MP’s who are quick to suggest this to be first in line.
There are some people who would genuinely benifit from the security and training the armed forces bring. But its not a career for everyone and forcing everyone down that route will be a disaster not just for them but for the Armed forces too.
Whoever is advising Labour is so blinkered by appeasing Express and Telegraph readers they have totally lost the plot.
Conscription by poverty. Strip and make it impossible for the poor young to claim benefits, keep minimum wage low so the young can’t afford to live, make education prohibitively expensive for the poor and offer them an “opportunity” to be cannon fodder for a pittance. Off you go for a horrific pointless death at the front to protect the rich peasant ….
I’d like to read this story by a source that isn’t the Daily Express.
Remember when labour said “national service” was a stupid idea and they wouldn’t do it…….
Seems perfectly reasonable for some people at least. Better to be encouraged to join something worthwhile than left to sit on your arse
Must be voluntary though.
Laughable given the state of recruitment for the forces. Even they are not hiring
Are Labour trying to lose the youth vote or something? It’s like every day I grow more glad I never voted for them.
Remember when left-wing parties and politicians pushed for large-scale infrastructure projects (which need workers) and expanding social services (which, again, need workers) instead of pushing people disillusioned with their future to join the army (which I’m sure will do wonders for the soldier morale)?
It’s okay if you don’t, it was a long, long time ago.
If you want to push the problematic youth into the army to dismantle youth gangs and anti-social behaviour then sure, the majority of the country would probably support that.
Sending kids into army jobs they don’t want who want to work and have careers but can’t because there’s no jobs and the entry level jobs available are all demanding X amount of years experience they can’t get however is diabolical.
Does the Army actually want them though? It’s meant to be a small, highly professional force.
Don’t have a job? Go kill some Russian teenagers! Beautiful world we have!
Governments across Europe will do anything to get but raise pay and conditions to get more soldiers.
I am sure this will give Labour a massive boost in the polls. Every young person who is struggling to find a job and afford a basic standard of living is no doubt delighted by this.
And if these young people had their legs blown off while fighting they would be too young to claim for disability.
I would have joined the army earlier on but I was flat out told no due to my autism and disability.
The army is actual genuinely a fantastic way of career progression with top of the range technology and brilliant education prospects.
Encouraging young people to sign up has and ALWAYS has been something we do in this country. They are NOT being conscripted despite, what the bots are saying here (and there is ALOT.) {Hello sweaty Russian farm workers.}
And there you have it, make life as shit as possible for people which gives them no option but join the military meat grinder, for wars these same cunt leaders will never step foot near and neither will their kids.
Yeah man, because disabled people and the mentally ill are well known for being able to join the military! Cut their benefits and force them in!
This might actually be a more out of touch take than the Tories have had in recent months. If you think the ablebodied are joining in either, you’re in for a massive shock, they have no reason to be patriotic for their own country when all governments are constantly attacking them for not doing enough.
‘is that a kings shilling at the bottom of your glass there lad?’
Sounds like a good idea to me, but it also sounds like we are not far off bringing in nation service, you know, that thing that outraged Labour when the Conservatives touted it
Conservatives pushed young people to sick pay to cook the youth unemployment books, now Labour are pushing them to conscription to cook the youth unemployment books. The Uniparty is ridiculous.
Why don’t they go for:
1. Permanent NI reduction for 18-24-year-old hires (scaled by region, higher reductions for regions with higher youth unemployment)
2. Additional NI cuts for companies investing in sectoral training (skills gap focus).
3. Extra incentives for remote work hires from disadvantaged regions.
4. Council-level business rate reductions for employers setting up in high-unemployment areas.
5. Infrastructure investment (broadband, co-working hubs) to support remote & local job growth.
1. Make people know they are unwanted by:
1. Withdrawing investment in their education and making them pay to go to university and front-load their lives with debt
2. Make people compete with millions and millions and millions of people from abroad for jobs and housing, which combined with the student debt make it impossible to build any wealth and therefore any personal security for their futures
3. Actively demonise their identity and history, and drive people apart as much as possible by constantly championing people’s differences as opposed to people’s similarities
4. Prioritising people who were not born here for support and housing to the point half of the social housing in the capital city is now occupied by people not born in the country, while leaving the pre-existing population to struggle
5. Create discriminatory sentencing guidelines that give preferential treatment to people not born in the UK, so that some people are punished more harshly for crimes than others on the basis of their identity rather than their crime.
2. Despise those unwanted people so much, that you’ll do everything you can to create the conditions that stop them from reproducing, and send them off to war to die for a country that hates them, so that we can bring about the new utopia.
Young people put their lives on hold to protect the elderly during Covid, yet now they see the pension triple lock securing financial stability for older generations while they themselves bear the cost.
Homeownership drifts further out of reach every year as house prices continue to rise.
Fiscal drag erodes real wages, acting as a stealth tax on working people.
Water companies pollute our rivers daily while piling on debt and paying out massive dividends.
The NHS and other public services are at breaking point after years of cuts and underfunding while unsustainable immigration adds further pressure.
Council tax keeps rising, yet local services are slashed to the bone, and town centers are in decline.
Students face stealth taxes due to frozen repayment thresholds, all while inflation eats away at their incomes.
Climate change looms large, yet we align ourselves with a president who actively sets back progress and undermines the security and democracy of our allies.
Why should young people contribute to a society that takes so much from them?
This shouldn’t be about forcing them to work it should be about giving them a reason to.
The social contract is being broken
If lib dems don’t capitalise and take advantage of this, reform is taking no 10 next election.
Am I going insane here?
I know people who served in the forces and after they did their time they basically got shafted by the government with poor support, little to no opportunities (like the rest of us), and that can be shown by the plentiful array of them “serving their nation” on the streets.
If you have a nation populated by young people who have already been fucked over by the country in terms of prospects, opportunities, and support by everyone within it, they have been mentally and physically crushed to the point of existential crisis… and then you hand them weapons – sooner or later its going to end up with a few strays taking matters into their own hands and the country is going to have a fucking serious problem.
No Liz… I don’t think forcing them into the military is a smart idea. Especially considering this countries long history of use them, abuse them, spit them out, and forget about them is still routine policy.
Not exactly.. she was responding to a rhetorical question by a conservative MP asking if joining the army would be a good route for young people that are unemployed, she agreed it would be.
Nobody is recommending a draft. I know reading the express is nauseating, and almost impossible with all the boxes everywhere if you don’t subscribe.. but some of the people in these comments really need to get a grip.
If you’re pro ‘boots on the ground’ in Ukraine then you should be happy with this 🤣
People should probably read the article before commenting what actually happened is Liz Kendall responded to a conservative MP asking whether this was an option.
It’s not to suggest that everyone who is unemployed in this age bracket will be funneled into joining the armed forces. I don’t really see a problem with this statement. For some people, is a viable career pass which can build skills and future employment prospects.