Stephen Fry and Stanley Tucci would be a formidable team to argue with.
LongAttorney3 on
Actors and choreographers being famously representative of the vox populi.
TurnGloomy on
Love most of those guys but their opinion on politics is irrelevant. This fawning over actors is so cringe. Most of them are just as posh and privileged as the people at the root of the problem.
Combat_Orca on
My brain missed the word U-Turn then, thought it was kinda harsh of them
Sweaty-Proposal7396 on
Ask them to share their actual marginal tax rate after they’ve funnelled it all via companies to avoid getting paid by PAYE …..
People like them are the reason cuts are needed
bjorno1990 on
Maybe we can use some of that half a billion that we waste per year on Fry’s “dear friend”, Charlie.
Puzzleheaded-Bug-223 on
I don’t think the cuts are targeted at the people who actually need it.
Blurny on
The cuts are needed against those who don’t need them. You should never be better off on benefits than you would be working. Likewise, those who genuinely can’t work should be protected at all costs. While this happens though, we absolutely should be making the filthy rich pay more and make it harder to find loopholes.
Illustrious-Skin2569 on
Woah buddy!!! Did your elected government just propose a new change without the approval of.. *checks notes*… the guy from transformers? not cool dude….
FackinNortyCake on
Maybe Fry should hand back his Knighthood if he’s so upset about it.
PiplupSneasel on
People say nice things
This sub: don’t trust them, they’re up to something.
Zealousideal_Fold_60 on
completely out of touch…. benefit fraud is rife in the uk
IndelibleIguana on
What’s wrong with you people?
These people have a huge public presence, and their opinions carry weight. It doesn’t matter if they are rich or not.
The fact is Starmer is taking the piss with these PIP cuts and the more people complain loudly about it, the better.
one__bad_monkey on
There was a good conversation about this on the newsagents podcast.
impendingcatastrophe on
I love all the commenters here stating that actors are divorced from day to day existence of poor people so their opinion isn’t valid…
Whilst salivating over the opinions of the ‘man of the people’ – the privately educated commodities trader millionaire who owns the company they vote for.
Jensen1994 on
What is the solution then? If those not at the most need are not brought back into the world of work (assuming there are actually jobs for them), how are we going to continue paying PIP payments in the longer run? If the bill is already £20bn higher after COVID and is set to double again in the coming years, this will cripple the countries finances. Moreover, we now face an existential threat in the coming years with a likely ear in Europe and the Far East with China and Taiwan – how are we going to defend ourselves? There seems to be a backlash against all mental health conditions being eligible for PIPs and that’s wrong – assessment needs to get better but also the root causes of some conditions like anxiety and depression need to be tackled with better services because an ever growing PIP and benefits bill is not possible.
I-left-and-came-back on
Does that mean they would be happy to pay more tax into the coffers then?
Appropriate-Bad-9379 on
If they manage to help reverse this cruel change in legislation, I don’t care who they are.
I have mental health issues and without my PIP, I won’t be able to exist. Thanks, Kier….
adreddit298 on
How the hell has Stanley Tucci got involved?!
Stephen Fry I get, because he’s always been quite vocal about his opinions; Arlene Phillips is probably looking for some relevance; Rosie Jones probably has some very personal insight into and experience of this. Stanley Tucci? I’m drawing a blank!
ElliottP1707 on
The issue is that our benefits system does need an overhaul, compared to other wealthy nations the UK benefit spending is by far the most. It’s something like one in ten people are claiming disability benefits and one in eight young people are not working or in education. That’s a lot of economic burden when we don’t have the money to facilitate it. Where do these celebs propose we get the money to support this?
wizard_mitch on
It’s easy to say don’t cut benefits, it’s harder to present and alternative plan of how you would cover that funding gap.
I don’t really want benefits to be cut but I also see they are projected to rise to £100bn by 2029 and there are no plans how we are going to pay for that increase.
SaltSatisfaction2124 on
Their opinion would carry more weight if they released a tax return showing they didn’t try and avoid tax and that they aren’t hoarding millions in other investments
Longjumping_Win_7770 on
How has your campaigning for Labour and against Scotland having self determination worked out Randomonium?
Shot-Personality9489 on
Good.
It’s so fundamentally obvious that removing financial support for people who can not work through disability is not a good thing.
We should maybe look at the fascists in America and think about perhaps taxing them some more instead? Maybe start to go for these huge companies that are now foaming at the mouth at the idea of invading their allies for profits.
There’s a wealth(lol) of parasites at the top of the food chain we could do without, lets go after them instead of punching down.
Sparkly1982 on
I don’t know why, but it feels odd that Stanley Tucci would have any skin in this game.
I’m all for anyone standing up for those more vulnerable than themselves, but am I missing something that would make him specifically care about this enough to speak out?
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Stephen Fry and Stanley Tucci would be a formidable team to argue with.
Actors and choreographers being famously representative of the vox populi.
Love most of those guys but their opinion on politics is irrelevant. This fawning over actors is so cringe. Most of them are just as posh and privileged as the people at the root of the problem.
My brain missed the word U-Turn then, thought it was kinda harsh of them
Ask them to share their actual marginal tax rate after they’ve funnelled it all via companies to avoid getting paid by PAYE …..
People like them are the reason cuts are needed
Maybe we can use some of that half a billion that we waste per year on Fry’s “dear friend”, Charlie.
I don’t think the cuts are targeted at the people who actually need it.
The cuts are needed against those who don’t need them. You should never be better off on benefits than you would be working. Likewise, those who genuinely can’t work should be protected at all costs. While this happens though, we absolutely should be making the filthy rich pay more and make it harder to find loopholes.
Woah buddy!!! Did your elected government just propose a new change without the approval of.. *checks notes*… the guy from transformers? not cool dude….
Maybe Fry should hand back his Knighthood if he’s so upset about it.
People say nice things
This sub: don’t trust them, they’re up to something.
completely out of touch…. benefit fraud is rife in the uk
What’s wrong with you people?
These people have a huge public presence, and their opinions carry weight. It doesn’t matter if they are rich or not.
The fact is Starmer is taking the piss with these PIP cuts and the more people complain loudly about it, the better.
There was a good conversation about this on the newsagents podcast.
I love all the commenters here stating that actors are divorced from day to day existence of poor people so their opinion isn’t valid…
Whilst salivating over the opinions of the ‘man of the people’ – the privately educated commodities trader millionaire who owns the company they vote for.
What is the solution then? If those not at the most need are not brought back into the world of work (assuming there are actually jobs for them), how are we going to continue paying PIP payments in the longer run? If the bill is already £20bn higher after COVID and is set to double again in the coming years, this will cripple the countries finances. Moreover, we now face an existential threat in the coming years with a likely ear in Europe and the Far East with China and Taiwan – how are we going to defend ourselves? There seems to be a backlash against all mental health conditions being eligible for PIPs and that’s wrong – assessment needs to get better but also the root causes of some conditions like anxiety and depression need to be tackled with better services because an ever growing PIP and benefits bill is not possible.
Does that mean they would be happy to pay more tax into the coffers then?
If they manage to help reverse this cruel change in legislation, I don’t care who they are.
I have mental health issues and without my PIP, I won’t be able to exist. Thanks, Kier….
How the hell has Stanley Tucci got involved?!
Stephen Fry I get, because he’s always been quite vocal about his opinions; Arlene Phillips is probably looking for some relevance; Rosie Jones probably has some very personal insight into and experience of this. Stanley Tucci? I’m drawing a blank!
The issue is that our benefits system does need an overhaul, compared to other wealthy nations the UK benefit spending is by far the most. It’s something like one in ten people are claiming disability benefits and one in eight young people are not working or in education. That’s a lot of economic burden when we don’t have the money to facilitate it. Where do these celebs propose we get the money to support this?
It’s easy to say don’t cut benefits, it’s harder to present and alternative plan of how you would cover that funding gap.
I don’t really want benefits to be cut but I also see they are projected to rise to £100bn by 2029 and there are no plans how we are going to pay for that increase.
Their opinion would carry more weight if they released a tax return showing they didn’t try and avoid tax and that they aren’t hoarding millions in other investments
How has your campaigning for Labour and against Scotland having self determination worked out Randomonium?
Good.
It’s so fundamentally obvious that removing financial support for people who can not work through disability is not a good thing.
We should maybe look at the fascists in America and think about perhaps taxing them some more instead? Maybe start to go for these huge companies that are now foaming at the mouth at the idea of invading their allies for profits.
There’s a wealth(lol) of parasites at the top of the food chain we could do without, lets go after them instead of punching down.
I don’t know why, but it feels odd that Stanley Tucci would have any skin in this game.
I’m all for anyone standing up for those more vulnerable than themselves, but am I missing something that would make him specifically care about this enough to speak out?