Former MI6 boss says Britain must get ready for war as Putin threatens Europe
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-war-russia-ukraine-mi6-alex-younger-b2726102.html
Posted by tylerthe-theatre
Former MI6 boss says Britain must get ready for war as Putin threatens Europe
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-war-russia-ukraine-mi6-alex-younger-b2726102.html
Posted by tylerthe-theatre
21 Comments
Several Russian spy teams have recently been caught monitoring our naval and airforce bases in country.
And those Russian ships we’ve been shadowing passing by our shores have been caught dropping sensors to detect our naval assets, including Trident.
They’re getting real. So should we.
I thought I read/heard his troops were depleted because of the Ukraine situation and that he is recruiting prisoners.
No way in hell i’ll be fighting for this country, for a government that hates its own people.
Well he would say that wouldnt he.
Its no different to the Pope advocating for catholocism, its his job and part of his DNA.
I am sure his counterpart in Moscow is advocating the same thing for the same reasons.
But as for me …. I have as about as much interest in bombing Vladivostock as my counterpart has in bombing Hemel Hempstead
When the elephants fight it’s the grass that gets trampled
Its not the middle ages you can’t just usher people off to war like slaves.
These people are always talking about how faith and willingness to serve have declined but never actually why. If the quality of life is just getting worse and worse, it’s very much valid to ask why anyone should want to go off and die in a ditch in Eastern Europe. I’ll be miserable either way, so I’d rather be miserable in my own country not freezing to death.
Im young, all I’ve ever known is how things are supposedly getting worse from any and all sides. What exactly would I be fighting for? Backing the lesser of two evils isn’t exactly an enticing incentive for people to go off and risk getting blown to pieces by a drone, especially when you don’t have any faith in returning to a country where things may actually improve afterwards.
Either make things better or you can join us, I’d say. I wouldn’t mind going that much just to see Farage and co shitting themeselves, but we know the warmongers of the modern era are never the ones actually fighting.
Go get em, just let my grandkids grandkids grandkids know when they have finished paying for it.
I just hope for a quick, painless death as I am disintegrated to radioactive vapour
If we keep basically saying we want to go ton war with Russia but need US to hold our hands we can’t act all surprised when Russia start preparing for that scenario.
Maybe this MI6 former boss can volunteer to help out on the ground in Ukraine? Become a soldier, combat medic, teacher…
I guess recycling childish fearmongering statements to the public is easier though
Putin can’t even take a country like Ukraine, he would last about five minutes against NATO even without the USA.
Well he has millions of illegal immigrants for the front line, unless they would rather return to their own country’s than fight for the UK government.
I’ll join as soon as Starmer is on his horse at the front, followed by every fuck Witt MP, Royal and their children. I’m sure they are all keen to die for the cause !!!!!!!!!
Russia are also trying to tamper with our democracy and have been for ages.
Look at who funds Farage / Aaron Banks.
Russia wants to create a Trump 2.0 situation in other countries as it is easier to remotely control a country through dictatorship than democracy.
The evidence that America has been compromised is everywhere.
We need to realise the threat that is occurring within our own media sphere as well and how Farage is a fifth column.
Does anyone know someone who has joined the military in response to what they perceive as an existential threat? I haven’t. This must be the widest gap between rhetoric and action in history.
It’s time we made a national guard.
Thousands and thousands of young men and middle aged dads, sworn to protect only the UK.
Young males need role models. Now they can have that.
It’s a win win.
Just hope we get some sort of initial warning before it happens so I can get my partner, me and the cat on a flight to her parents in Brazil. I didn’t fight through 5 years of hellish depression to build something that Putin will destroy.
Conservative party destroyed more lives, ruined more finances, smashed more businesses apart than Russia ever did. And yes how Conservatives laughed and laughed as they did it. Fuck this country let it go under.
All I know is I won’t be fighting for a country that would gladly see me starve on the street.
Isn’t the point of our nuclear weapons to deter anyone from going to war with us. If Russia attacks us they become dust and so do we. Otherwise what’s the point of our nuclear deterrence
If they can’t beat Ukraine through donated weapons on their own doorstep, how on Earth do they think they could take Europe? I mean, just trying to take Poland would take an ungodly amount of resources, and that’s without taking into account article 5 (even without the US) bringing all of Europe into defence.
Can someone explain to me the point in nuclear weapons if we will just fight real wars with other nuclear powers anyway? Isn’t the point of them to stop the threat of a war or invasion since someone could just nuke the other side.
I’m no military expert, but the UK going to war with Russia in the traditional sense seems unlikely – it’s struggling to fight a war against one country that literally borders it. Does Russia really think it can open, maintain, and win multiple fronts against the rest of Europe?
The biggest threat Russia presents seems to be the targeting of civilian and military infrastructure using things like cyber attacks, and damaging the political establishment with things like Brexit. Whether you think Russia seeded that or not, they definitely took advantage of separating the UK internally and weaking our ties with the rest of the EU.