If the discipline is for him actually firing the gun then it’s ridiculous because it was shown in court his life was at risk. Unless they think he should have been prepared to die. maybe he did something else wrong though.
Caephon on
This is really pathetic from the IOPC. Instead of putting their hands up and admitting that they were wrong they’re dragging NX121 through yet more proceedings and wasting taxpayers time and money whilst they do it. I can’t fathom if this is institutional incompetence or base pettiness.
BobBobBobBobBobDave on
I suppose from a process point of view, just because what he did doesn’t meet the criminal threshold for murder/manslaughter doesn’t mean it wasn’t misconduct, so this still probably has to happen.
But seeing as how the officer doesn’t appear to have done anything wrong (unless there is stuff we still don’t know), than what an ordeal.
I imagine this sort of thing would make you think twice about using your weapon, even if you felt it was justified. Potential years of legal struggles to follow.
BatVisual5631 on
It’s conceivable that he didn’t murder anyone (self-defence) but that there was still conduct well below the standard expected (eg getting oneself in a position where one has to take a life to stay safe). Even so it smacks of sour grapes now pursuing a misconduct charge after his acquittal.
Auraan- on
Great, another investigation that’s a complete waste of time & resources.
TLDR; Guy was a gang member, shot somebody before the incident, used his car as a weapon, got shot and killed for it.
EDIT: Apparently there’s some form of debate on whether my previous comment “broke the law” or not, so in the interest of keeping things above board, regardless of whether it did or didn’t as it wasn’t my intention to do so, I will remove it and replace it with this:
If I was a cop, I’d probably feel that I wasn’t safe performing my duties and likely resign due to this absurdity and I wouldn’t be surprised if others feel the same way.
asoplu on
> Sgt Martyn Blake has been told he must appear before a hearing accused of gross misconduct following a review of the case by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC).
lol, like the IOPC were ever going to come to any other conclusion after trying to fit him up with a murder charge alongside the CPS and getting humiliated by what must have been one of the shortest deliberation times in the history of the courts. At least if they manage to get him sacked, they might have something to point at to try and save face.
Obviously gross misconduct and murder aren’t the same thing, it’s entirely possible to commit one but not the other. But I would suggest, if several other officers state they were about to do the same, and a jury take just a couple of hours to decide an officer deliberately shooting somebody was not murder, it’s a pretty strong indication that it wasn’t misconduct, either.
Blatantly an unfair system for the officer who, regardless of the outcome, has now had his life ruined and put at risk, just for doing his job of keeping the rest of us safe. Why the fuck would anybody volunteer to be a firearms officer, not to mention for no extra pay.
roddz on
I wonder why theyre struggling to hire armed officers?
andrew0256 on
We knew this was going to happen, the IoPC said as much after the trial. They were embarrassed after the trial and this is their revenge.
Significant_Glove274 on
Armed Police should just go on strike for a couple of weeks, would sort this crap out overnight.
Dragging out the shooting of a known gangster who would have happily run over officers to get away is an absolute farce.
peanut88 on
Revolting. The jury didn’t deliver the blob-approved result, so the blob will just obtain the same outcome of ruining this man’s life by other means.
ozzzymanduous on
I can’t see why he would even want to work for the MET after this
Mrmrmckay on
The iopc turns a blind eye to actual bad policing and yet this is the hill they want to die on
retniap on
>Prosecutors suggested Sgt Blake had acted out of “fear, anger or frustration”
I don’t understand this statement, isn’t fear for one’s safety/the safety of others a reasonable justification for someone’s actions if they’re on trial for murder?
Correct-Ad884 on
Can my tax money stop going towards funding these pointless investigations? By the end of all of this, I’d imagine the majority of my tax money is going to be funding the mansions of corrupt legal people.
Cruxed1 on
The IOPC wanting their pound of flesh no matter what happens? Surely not..
May as well be the OPC because there’s nothing independent about it given how easily they bend to political or societal pressure.
aleopardstail on
the natural result of this should be armed officers handing back their firearms and returning to normal duties
Fuzzy_Cranberry8164 on
Chris Kaba was the cunt that shot up a nightclub right? Then when being arrested attempted to flee in a car and run over the officer that shot him? He deserves what he got little badman, live by the gun I hope you die by it.
Barrerayy on
The IOPC is an essential institution, and we need to keep the police accountable for their actions. But this is a load of bollocks.
What was he meant to do, let the SUV fucking ram him and his colleagues?
BoringPhilosopher1 on
This officer deserves a go fund me setup.
Nobody deserves this level of stress and pressure for their poorly paid job when they did nothing wrong.
risinghysteria on
Sounds like Kaba ‘fucked around and found out’
That’s what these sort of gangsters like to say right?
moojammin on
‘Cleared of murdering’
So, regardless of conviction, the media is pushing that he was murdered yea?
Disinformation is cancer
News media needs clear and strict laws to follow.
Toochilled77 on
The police are never wrong, in their eyes.
Now this armed policeman is finding that out. He has been found not guilty by a jury. That, it seems, has only upset those in the police who cashed him even more.
I feel for him, and hid colleagues. Should he really of waited for one of them, or a public member, to be ran over first?
I also wonder why he is still in the police. Surely he has a massive case for constructive dismissal?
Competitive_Buy6402 on
At this point, can he just not sue the force for political persecution? NX121 now being proven innocent and justified in his action but it seems the force is hell bent on ensuring he is punished somehow under any circumstance? A way to kill his pension maybe too, if he chooses not to remain within the police force?
1-Xander-1 on
calling it murder is a stretch. let it go and stop wasting tax payers money. that poor police officer has had enough stress.
bigccozart on
Blackophilia
UK trying to turn this into some george lloyd shit is just sa’a’ad
Connor123x on
I know people on this sub seems to hate articles from the Telegraph, but at least they have the guts to call a gangster a gangster and not try and make him sound like an angel.
Death_Binge on
So NX121 is facing the same charge as before but in a civil court rather than a criminal court this time? Or have I got that wrong?
Jack_ABC123 on
Gross misconduct for shooting a POS. Crazy stuff, the man should be knighted for saving the other people from this armed lunatic. Like seriously, I think it’s justifiable to use lethal force against anyone who has a weapon on them, like no sane, safe, ordinary person has went through the difficult loopholes of smuggling a weapon into the country – I’m not even sure how the heck someone goes about doing that.
ConsciouslyIncomplet on
What a travesty – no case to answer here. He was a criminal and we’ve all seen the footage.
Careless_Agency5365 on
I’m confused, we knew about him facing gross misconduct immediately after the trial. Is there any significant update here?
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If the discipline is for him actually firing the gun then it’s ridiculous because it was shown in court his life was at risk. Unless they think he should have been prepared to die. maybe he did something else wrong though.
This is really pathetic from the IOPC. Instead of putting their hands up and admitting that they were wrong they’re dragging NX121 through yet more proceedings and wasting taxpayers time and money whilst they do it. I can’t fathom if this is institutional incompetence or base pettiness.
I suppose from a process point of view, just because what he did doesn’t meet the criminal threshold for murder/manslaughter doesn’t mean it wasn’t misconduct, so this still probably has to happen.
But seeing as how the officer doesn’t appear to have done anything wrong (unless there is stuff we still don’t know), than what an ordeal.
I imagine this sort of thing would make you think twice about using your weapon, even if you felt it was justified. Potential years of legal struggles to follow.
It’s conceivable that he didn’t murder anyone (self-defence) but that there was still conduct well below the standard expected (eg getting oneself in a position where one has to take a life to stay safe). Even so it smacks of sour grapes now pursuing a misconduct charge after his acquittal.
Great, another investigation that’s a complete waste of time & resources.
TLDR; Guy was a gang member, shot somebody before the incident, used his car as a weapon, got shot and killed for it.
EDIT: Apparently there’s some form of debate on whether my previous comment “broke the law” or not, so in the interest of keeping things above board, regardless of whether it did or didn’t as it wasn’t my intention to do so, I will remove it and replace it with this:
If I was a cop, I’d probably feel that I wasn’t safe performing my duties and likely resign due to this absurdity and I wouldn’t be surprised if others feel the same way.
> Sgt Martyn Blake has been told he must appear before a hearing accused of gross misconduct following a review of the case by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC).
lol, like the IOPC were ever going to come to any other conclusion after trying to fit him up with a murder charge alongside the CPS and getting humiliated by what must have been one of the shortest deliberation times in the history of the courts. At least if they manage to get him sacked, they might have something to point at to try and save face.
Obviously gross misconduct and murder aren’t the same thing, it’s entirely possible to commit one but not the other. But I would suggest, if several other officers state they were about to do the same, and a jury take just a couple of hours to decide an officer deliberately shooting somebody was not murder, it’s a pretty strong indication that it wasn’t misconduct, either.
Blatantly an unfair system for the officer who, regardless of the outcome, has now had his life ruined and put at risk, just for doing his job of keeping the rest of us safe. Why the fuck would anybody volunteer to be a firearms officer, not to mention for no extra pay.
I wonder why theyre struggling to hire armed officers?
We knew this was going to happen, the IoPC said as much after the trial. They were embarrassed after the trial and this is their revenge.
Armed Police should just go on strike for a couple of weeks, would sort this crap out overnight.
Dragging out the shooting of a known gangster who would have happily run over officers to get away is an absolute farce.
Revolting. The jury didn’t deliver the blob-approved result, so the blob will just obtain the same outcome of ruining this man’s life by other means.
I can’t see why he would even want to work for the MET after this
The iopc turns a blind eye to actual bad policing and yet this is the hill they want to die on
>Prosecutors suggested Sgt Blake had acted out of “fear, anger or frustration”
I don’t understand this statement, isn’t fear for one’s safety/the safety of others a reasonable justification for someone’s actions if they’re on trial for murder?
Can my tax money stop going towards funding these pointless investigations? By the end of all of this, I’d imagine the majority of my tax money is going to be funding the mansions of corrupt legal people.
The IOPC wanting their pound of flesh no matter what happens? Surely not..
May as well be the OPC because there’s nothing independent about it given how easily they bend to political or societal pressure.
the natural result of this should be armed officers handing back their firearms and returning to normal duties
Chris Kaba was the cunt that shot up a nightclub right? Then when being arrested attempted to flee in a car and run over the officer that shot him? He deserves what he got little badman, live by the gun I hope you die by it.
The IOPC is an essential institution, and we need to keep the police accountable for their actions. But this is a load of bollocks.
What was he meant to do, let the SUV fucking ram him and his colleagues?
This officer deserves a go fund me setup.
Nobody deserves this level of stress and pressure for their poorly paid job when they did nothing wrong.
Sounds like Kaba ‘fucked around and found out’
That’s what these sort of gangsters like to say right?
‘Cleared of murdering’
So, regardless of conviction, the media is pushing that he was murdered yea?
Disinformation is cancer
News media needs clear and strict laws to follow.
The police are never wrong, in their eyes.
Now this armed policeman is finding that out. He has been found not guilty by a jury. That, it seems, has only upset those in the police who cashed him even more.
I feel for him, and hid colleagues. Should he really of waited for one of them, or a public member, to be ran over first?
I also wonder why he is still in the police. Surely he has a massive case for constructive dismissal?
At this point, can he just not sue the force for political persecution? NX121 now being proven innocent and justified in his action but it seems the force is hell bent on ensuring he is punished somehow under any circumstance? A way to kill his pension maybe too, if he chooses not to remain within the police force?
calling it murder is a stretch. let it go and stop wasting tax payers money. that poor police officer has had enough stress.
Blackophilia
UK trying to turn this into some george lloyd shit is just sa’a’ad
I know people on this sub seems to hate articles from the Telegraph, but at least they have the guts to call a gangster a gangster and not try and make him sound like an angel.
So NX121 is facing the same charge as before but in a civil court rather than a criminal court this time? Or have I got that wrong?
Gross misconduct for shooting a POS. Crazy stuff, the man should be knighted for saving the other people from this armed lunatic. Like seriously, I think it’s justifiable to use lethal force against anyone who has a weapon on them, like no sane, safe, ordinary person has went through the difficult loopholes of smuggling a weapon into the country – I’m not even sure how the heck someone goes about doing that.
What a travesty – no case to answer here. He was a criminal and we’ve all seen the footage.
I’m confused, we knew about him facing gross misconduct immediately after the trial. Is there any significant update here?