>Now senior Tories have told The Independent that they plan to press Robert Jenrick, who came second to Ms Badenoch, to challenge her.
That is quite dire. I’m fairly sure he’d make an even worse leader than Badenoch.
>Among the complaints against Ms Badenoch is a lack of vision and policies, a failure to score hits in Prime Minister’s Questions and a failure to properly confront the rising Reform.
And these are also complaints against Jenrick.
GnolRevilo on
She is woeful. I genuinely don’t even understand what she or her party currently stands for.
Training-Sugar-1610 on
They will keep her another year maybe 2 then parachute in someone for the next GE that “totally” had nothing to do with the previous Tory gov.
PatrickTheSosij on
Obviously the intended plan. Take the sunak and loss heat then switch
She’s a patsy
OpticalData on
It would be news if the Tories weren’t plotting to replace their leader.
Tripp_Loso on
I don’t think my towns local conservative party exists anymore. I think most of the hard core conservatives have gone to reform.
Ill_Temporary_9509 on
Because they were so totally going to keep her on until the next GE.
Jay_6125 on
Doesn’t matter who they chose. Half the party is full of Tory Wet/Lib Dem entryists.
Nobody believes a thing they say.
Reform is the Party of the centre right.
The Conservatives are finished.
Travel-Barry on
Leaving voting to the general public (that are Tory members) is insane — you’re always going to get the more extreme of the two remaining candidates …_leading to this_.
Who remembers when politics was actually quite boring? Yet those are the times we wistfully look back on with glee (and rose tinted glasses of course).
NoAssociate5573 on
It won’t help them. They are the party that gave us Liz Truss and Boris Johnson.
They will never again be seen as capable.
Sithfish on
Why bother? Changing driver of the slowest car in the race.
CaptMelonfish on
Madness, who else do they have that would be massively out of their depth in a small puddle?
Rare_Walk_4845 on
It’s actually a kind of funny trope you see sometimes in the business world that has clearly crossovered to politics.
You put a woman in charge when the ship starts to sink. Think about how many women have been elected into office since Thatcher, that’s ZERO.
But since Brexit? A whole THREE!
WhatsTheStoryMG_1995 on
Tory vote is now a wasted vote, the party is dead I don’t see how they come back from this absolutely slaughtering they’ve been put through since the GE
Few_Mess_4566 on
I don’t think there’s anything she could have done to be honest.
Don’t get me wrong, she’s been crap, but the Conservatives betrayed the country .
Evening-Feature1153 on
Gasp! Will it be Robert jenrick? Who it should have been all along.
NSFWaccess1998 on
Please choose Jenrick so swathes of the South can go yellow and the right wing block (Tories+Reform) are denied a majority.
Correct-Ad884 on
I mean, they’ve gotta put the worst person in for the job after such a dire loss at the last general election. That way, when someone who looks vaguely normal becomes party leader, it’ll make a bigger impact.
GodGeorge on
They need to go for Cleverly or the party is actually completely finished.
thenewguy22 on
She was never going to be the tory leader come next election.
TinitusTheRed on
They are done for. They will fall into the death spiral of leadership challenges, then MP defections while more of their grass root support runs to Reform.
The Torys are done for, even Boris can’t save them this time. Good riddance, but at what cost?
GBrunt on
It’s the Right Wing Magic Politics Show. The Tory Leader gets in the box. The magician, we’ll call him Mr. Reinvention, stabs them multiple times. But, ta-da!! Reform emerge unscathed from the same right-wing box! The crowds can’t believe it and go crazy, and the producers (big oil et al) smile from the Royal Box at their new horse in the race.
pajamakitten on
They purged anyone sensible years ago and calling those who remain the dregs is an insult to dregs. Getting rid of Badenough is not going to change the fact that the Tories are almost irrelevant now because of Reform.
RoyaleWCheese_OK on
At this point its shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic for the Tories., Had their chance and biffed it. Now its a matter of how long before Labour realise they are in deep shit and actually do something before Reform takes over and it gets mental.
Significant_Glove274 on
With who? The entire brand is poisoned – it doesn’t matter who the leader is. They have lost millions of voters due to Brexit, Johnson and Truss and they aren’t coming back.
Danielharris1260 on
I don’t even know that party is supposed to do replacing her makes the party look more disorganised They would’ve had 5 leaders in the time Labour’s had 1. But keeping her when she’s such an uninspiring character seems like massive mistake too
WanderingArtist2 on
This is basically turning into Starship Troopers where Rico ends up a Lieutenant fresh out of high school because everyone more qualified is dead.
Pretty sure Jenrick is the last of the candidates who stood to replace Boris Johnson. They’ve already burned through Truss, Sunak, and Badenoch.
Andreus on
Unless the Tories ditch this poisonous “anti-woke” nonsense, they’re finished.
TeeFitts on
I’ve been saying since she became leader, there’s not a chance of her taking the Tories into a general election. She’s there while the Conservatives mark time in opposition – there’s no way she’d ever convince the type of people who gave the Tories a huge majority in 2019 to vote them into Government!
Jenrick is similarly useless but seems the current favorite for some reason. Sunak was genuinely more appealing than both of them, and even he was useless! If the Tories were serious about winning, they need to find someone who is both enough of shrewd, media savvy bull-shit artist to counter Farage’s substance-free populism, while also reassuring old-school Tories that the party is for serious ‘grown ups’ again.
BrawDev on
I really don’t see the Tory party being a thing in 10 years without massive recruitment and new blood. The entire current management needs to go. It’s akin to a private equity company buying a company, restructuring and removing all the staff, and still calling it the same thing.
Badenochs entire career has more steps of her failing to get elected and failing to retain seats than it does her actually winning them.
>In the run-up to the 2019 Conservative Party leadership election, Badenoch was tipped as a possible contender just two years into her tenure in parliament
Like this isn’t a serious party. Picking a leader that’s only been there…. two years and has been an abject failure. Wtf are you all doing.
TheGardenBlinked on
Who with? Mordaunt? The Tugger? Generic? Fucking DePfeffel again?
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>Now senior Tories have told The Independent that they plan to press Robert Jenrick, who came second to Ms Badenoch, to challenge her.
That is quite dire. I’m fairly sure he’d make an even worse leader than Badenoch.
>Among the complaints against Ms Badenoch is a lack of vision and policies, a failure to score hits in Prime Minister’s Questions and a failure to properly confront the rising Reform.
And these are also complaints against Jenrick.
She is woeful. I genuinely don’t even understand what she or her party currently stands for.
They will keep her another year maybe 2 then parachute in someone for the next GE that “totally” had nothing to do with the previous Tory gov.
Obviously the intended plan. Take the sunak and loss heat then switch
She’s a patsy
It would be news if the Tories weren’t plotting to replace their leader.
I don’t think my towns local conservative party exists anymore. I think most of the hard core conservatives have gone to reform.
Because they were so totally going to keep her on until the next GE.
Doesn’t matter who they chose. Half the party is full of Tory Wet/Lib Dem entryists.
Nobody believes a thing they say.
Reform is the Party of the centre right.
The Conservatives are finished.
Leaving voting to the general public (that are Tory members) is insane — you’re always going to get the more extreme of the two remaining candidates …_leading to this_.
Who remembers when politics was actually quite boring? Yet those are the times we wistfully look back on with glee (and rose tinted glasses of course).
It won’t help them. They are the party that gave us Liz Truss and Boris Johnson.
They will never again be seen as capable.
Why bother? Changing driver of the slowest car in the race.
Madness, who else do they have that would be massively out of their depth in a small puddle?
It’s actually a kind of funny trope you see sometimes in the business world that has clearly crossovered to politics.
You put a woman in charge when the ship starts to sink. Think about how many women have been elected into office since Thatcher, that’s ZERO.
But since Brexit? A whole THREE!
Tory vote is now a wasted vote, the party is dead I don’t see how they come back from this absolutely slaughtering they’ve been put through since the GE
I don’t think there’s anything she could have done to be honest.
Don’t get me wrong, she’s been crap, but the Conservatives betrayed the country .
Gasp! Will it be Robert jenrick? Who it should have been all along.
Please choose Jenrick so swathes of the South can go yellow and the right wing block (Tories+Reform) are denied a majority.
I mean, they’ve gotta put the worst person in for the job after such a dire loss at the last general election. That way, when someone who looks vaguely normal becomes party leader, it’ll make a bigger impact.
They need to go for Cleverly or the party is actually completely finished.
She was never going to be the tory leader come next election.
They are done for. They will fall into the death spiral of leadership challenges, then MP defections while more of their grass root support runs to Reform.
The Torys are done for, even Boris can’t save them this time. Good riddance, but at what cost?
It’s the Right Wing Magic Politics Show. The Tory Leader gets in the box. The magician, we’ll call him Mr. Reinvention, stabs them multiple times. But, ta-da!! Reform emerge unscathed from the same right-wing box! The crowds can’t believe it and go crazy, and the producers (big oil et al) smile from the Royal Box at their new horse in the race.
They purged anyone sensible years ago and calling those who remain the dregs is an insult to dregs. Getting rid of Badenough is not going to change the fact that the Tories are almost irrelevant now because of Reform.
At this point its shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic for the Tories., Had their chance and biffed it. Now its a matter of how long before Labour realise they are in deep shit and actually do something before Reform takes over and it gets mental.
With who? The entire brand is poisoned – it doesn’t matter who the leader is. They have lost millions of voters due to Brexit, Johnson and Truss and they aren’t coming back.
I don’t even know that party is supposed to do replacing her makes the party look more disorganised They would’ve had 5 leaders in the time Labour’s had 1. But keeping her when she’s such an uninspiring character seems like massive mistake too
This is basically turning into Starship Troopers where Rico ends up a Lieutenant fresh out of high school because everyone more qualified is dead.
Pretty sure Jenrick is the last of the candidates who stood to replace Boris Johnson. They’ve already burned through Truss, Sunak, and Badenoch.
Unless the Tories ditch this poisonous “anti-woke” nonsense, they’re finished.
I’ve been saying since she became leader, there’s not a chance of her taking the Tories into a general election. She’s there while the Conservatives mark time in opposition – there’s no way she’d ever convince the type of people who gave the Tories a huge majority in 2019 to vote them into Government!
Jenrick is similarly useless but seems the current favorite for some reason. Sunak was genuinely more appealing than both of them, and even he was useless! If the Tories were serious about winning, they need to find someone who is both enough of shrewd, media savvy bull-shit artist to counter Farage’s substance-free populism, while also reassuring old-school Tories that the party is for serious ‘grown ups’ again.
I really don’t see the Tory party being a thing in 10 years without massive recruitment and new blood. The entire current management needs to go. It’s akin to a private equity company buying a company, restructuring and removing all the staff, and still calling it the same thing.
Badenochs entire career has more steps of her failing to get elected and failing to retain seats than it does her actually winning them.
>In the run-up to the 2019 Conservative Party leadership election, Badenoch was tipped as a possible contender just two years into her tenure in parliament
Like this isn’t a serious party. Picking a leader that’s only been there…. two years and has been an abject failure. Wtf are you all doing.
Who with? Mordaunt? The Tugger? Generic? Fucking DePfeffel again?