You couldn’t get a bigger indictment of our country’s politics that a grifter worm like Grimes is now an elected official.
Defiant_Ad_2762 on
Reform with their f-ing MAGA handbook. They’re even more stupid than I thought if that’s possible
Important_Try_7915 on
You’d think he’d be ever so slightly more smarter what with that colossal forehead of his, but no, proper daft, watching US politics thinking it’s anything like the U.K is just stupid.
Sensitive_Echo5058 on
DEI is a waste of time, so I don’t blame him for asserting his opinion, regardless of whether the council offers this course or not.
It projects highly divisive social narratives based on subjective falsehoods.
Everyone has the capacity to assume victimhood status because our minds operationally function through biases.
So, there’ll always be that person who says, “I’m the victim of racism etc. in the face of ambiguity, when, in fact, more plausible explanations are available.
We really do need to get back to an objective evidence-base discussion on the topic of DEI.
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Edit: I’m getting a lot of attention on this post, so will use this as an opportunity to promote my position further.
The field of psychology has long discussed ‘cognitive biases’ before it was co-opted by pop science and popularised ‘unconscious bias’. Our brains are hard-wired to make sense of messy information, such that it relies on quick and dirty tricks (‘biases’) to predict the outcome of an ambiguous situation. These biases are learned from our experiences but also the knowledge shared to us by others.
As an example, if one receives what they perceive to be a ‘dirty’ look, they may interpret this to be an act of racism (I.e., ‘microaggression). When other plausible explanations exist, maybe the person was having a really bad day.
The problem is on a group level: what Jung termed called “collective consciousness” can emerge. I call this a social narrative and believe that people conform to ideologies based on the views of the majority. So, in some sense, biases are contagious and will emerge within an echochamber.
This implies if enough people state there is ‘systemic racism’ when in fact objective evidence can show this to be a falsehood, the social narrative will take a life of it’s own. People will really believe it, they’ll perceive it, they feel it, it’s very real to them.
This is what’s happened in contemporary Britain. The culture war isn’t a war based on left vs right. It’s based on objectivity vs. subjectivity. It should transcend political orientation, though the narratives are becoming politicised, and people are only sourcing their beliefs from within their own groups/echochambers.
If you look at many objective metrics of inequality, etc., you’ll often find a lack of empirical evidence to justify policies such as DEI. So, the people critical of DEI are tapping into reality, though they may struggle to articulate their arguments well.
The irony is that Redditors on the left often call others ‘stupid’ but fail to realise how their own biasss have been formed by the groups and spaces they occupy.
SnooRegrets8068 on
Got the headline they wanted initially, most won’t read much further.
Next they will be celebrating not having to take the non existent courses.
OkMap3209 on
>Reform leader Nigel Farage saying that anybody working on climate change initiatives or DEI at the council should “be seeking alternative employment very, very quickly.”
Well worth considering that DEI is supposed to be an efficiency initiative that consolidates everything related to diversity, equity and inclusion into one department. That includes everything from disability access to services to providing social mobility services to disadvantaged areas and people.
I wish people could equate politicians attacking DEI as trying to get rid of wherlchair ramps and destroy job opportunities in hard hit areas including poor white areas. Because that’s what it will do.
merryman1 on
The problem is that we can all laugh and guffaw at this stuff, but Reform voters are ***never*** going to see it, even if they do the DoubleThink will erase it post-haste. All they’ll see is are Dazza standing up to the wokies and the leftie racists who want to replace Great British citizens with foreign muslamic types.
Moli_36 on
Genuinely the biggest problem with Reforms rise is we will be putting the absolute least competent people in the most important roles. It’s bloody tragic.
Plus, when you look at the staggering levels of corruption Trump has brought into government, it’s very predictable the same thing will happen here.
west0ne on
There’s a good chance both of those courses are part of the council’s online induction programme. Last time I did some interim work at a council all of their induction training had gone online, and both of these were on the list of mandatory courses. There is probably no course to physically attend but an expectation that you have to at least sign to say you have read and understood them.
PurahsHero on
I really hope he gets a role like the councillor responsible for highways. And he gets hauled over the coals by a bunch of angry locals as he explains that woke DEI policies are stopping him from filling in potholes. And I hope it gets broadcast, live.
This guy is about to get the full force of democracy directly in the face and he is not going to like it.
Useful_Resolution888 on
They’re a total fucking joke, but unfortunately we’re the punchline.
Marcuse0 on
I had to check the article for what that meant. For a second I imagined the whole council aside from this guy attending an empty room where nothing happens then saying they completed training.
FaceMace87 on
I’m sure Reform voters have their excuses ready as to why this isn’t actually a big deal.
This paired with Andrea Jenkyns wanting to fire diversity officers that they didn’t have it is already becoming apparent that Reform and their voters have just been shouting at the clouds. They are finding out that the things they are angry about generally don’t even exist.
Loreki on
Is a Reform a whole party of online grifters or am I reading too much into a few instances?
willNffcUk on
It only ever existed in his mind lol not really surprising somebody who used to work at GB news making things up ⬆️
Gilet622 on
So this whole articles evidence is that an MP says so? Did the journalists consider just going to Durham councils website and doing some research?
“It is essential that councillors have an understanding of equalities
and diversity issues and training will be offered to you in these areas which
you must undertake.”
with must in bold text
Thin-Gene-1001 on
If I don’t do my compulsory training I’m disciplined and potentially sacked. If I act like I know best I’ll also get disciplined and eventually sacked. Just suck it up and do it.
Different-Employ9651 on
Bunch of lying idiots. Those who elected them deserve the mess they’ve got. Wtf are the rest of their constituents meant to do?
While these tits are making waves over fucking nonsense, real people will continue to suffer real issues with no support or hope for change. It’s hideous.
Raining_Lobsters on
This epsilon-minus semi-moron being elected to public office is a new low foe this country.
disgruntledhands on
Isn’t this the guy who tried a crafty wank at school and was caught?
Kelypsov on
Sorry, I just don’t get it. At all. It could not be more obvious that Reform are a bunch of lying grifters, and there seems to be more evidence of this practically every day. Nigel Farage may as well have ‘con man’ tattooed on his forehead.
Yet people actually vote for them.
gstarguru on
a man who only cares about misinformation and causing division in society. Absolutely despise him
knitscones on
Shouldn’t these people be given an IQ test before they can stand for public office?
MordecaiTheBrown on
I bet he wouldn’t turn down putting his togger in a dead pig
DesignerElectrical23 on
Unfortunately for me this one is my local councillor. He and his minions have been hitting the area for weeks. Farage himself even came. They have had a lot of visibility.
On election day he was out walking the main roads with big Reform signs. He had a few elderly people with him, one with a walking stick. I stopped and asked what Nigel meant by having an American style health system (something he said the day before) Grimes did not have a clue. I asked the person with the stick whether they use private health care. No, the NHS.
He disposition matches his name, grime.
DesignerElectrical23 on
The man is also openly gay. The diversity equity and inclusion initiatives explicitly cover LGBTQ+.
Does he not agree with having a protected characteristic?
Some people who work for the council would have been alive when homosexuality was illegal in this country. It’s taken acts/laws to protect people of all demographics.
LurkHereLurkThere on
FFS they sound just like the GOP, cancel DEI, cancel climate change, cancel freedoms, cancel cancel-culture except of course their cancellations.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they start advocating for oil drilling across the country “drill baby drill” and opening up the national parks for lumber and building new homes.
Obviously there will be a new “building licence fee” and committee that after careful consideration only allows millionaires to purchase large lots of land to build single family mansions.
mattyquillan on
When people say the country is fucked this is what they mean. Absolutely embarrassing
ash_ninetyone on
Wait what?
In what cursed timeline is Crafty Wank an elected pillock?
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You couldn’t get a bigger indictment of our country’s politics that a grifter worm like Grimes is now an elected official.
Reform with their f-ing MAGA handbook. They’re even more stupid than I thought if that’s possible
You’d think he’d be ever so slightly more smarter what with that colossal forehead of his, but no, proper daft, watching US politics thinking it’s anything like the U.K is just stupid.
DEI is a waste of time, so I don’t blame him for asserting his opinion, regardless of whether the council offers this course or not.
It projects highly divisive social narratives based on subjective falsehoods.
Everyone has the capacity to assume victimhood status because our minds operationally function through biases.
So, there’ll always be that person who says, “I’m the victim of racism etc. in the face of ambiguity, when, in fact, more plausible explanations are available.
We really do need to get back to an objective evidence-base discussion on the topic of DEI.
—–‐———————————————————————————-
Edit: I’m getting a lot of attention on this post, so will use this as an opportunity to promote my position further.
The field of psychology has long discussed ‘cognitive biases’ before it was co-opted by pop science and popularised ‘unconscious bias’. Our brains are hard-wired to make sense of messy information, such that it relies on quick and dirty tricks (‘biases’) to predict the outcome of an ambiguous situation. These biases are learned from our experiences but also the knowledge shared to us by others.
As an example, if one receives what they perceive to be a ‘dirty’ look, they may interpret this to be an act of racism (I.e., ‘microaggression). When other plausible explanations exist, maybe the person was having a really bad day.
The problem is on a group level: what Jung termed called “collective consciousness” can emerge. I call this a social narrative and believe that people conform to ideologies based on the views of the majority. So, in some sense, biases are contagious and will emerge within an echochamber.
This implies if enough people state there is ‘systemic racism’ when in fact objective evidence can show this to be a falsehood, the social narrative will take a life of it’s own. People will really believe it, they’ll perceive it, they feel it, it’s very real to them.
This is what’s happened in contemporary Britain. The culture war isn’t a war based on left vs right. It’s based on objectivity vs. subjectivity. It should transcend political orientation, though the narratives are becoming politicised, and people are only sourcing their beliefs from within their own groups/echochambers.
If you look at many objective metrics of inequality, etc., you’ll often find a lack of empirical evidence to justify policies such as DEI. So, the people critical of DEI are tapping into reality, though they may struggle to articulate their arguments well.
The irony is that Redditors on the left often call others ‘stupid’ but fail to realise how their own biasss have been formed by the groups and spaces they occupy.
Got the headline they wanted initially, most won’t read much further.
Next they will be celebrating not having to take the non existent courses.
>Reform leader Nigel Farage saying that anybody working on climate change initiatives or DEI at the council should “be seeking alternative employment very, very quickly.”
Well worth considering that DEI is supposed to be an efficiency initiative that consolidates everything related to diversity, equity and inclusion into one department. That includes everything from disability access to services to providing social mobility services to disadvantaged areas and people.
I wish people could equate politicians attacking DEI as trying to get rid of wherlchair ramps and destroy job opportunities in hard hit areas including poor white areas. Because that’s what it will do.
The problem is that we can all laugh and guffaw at this stuff, but Reform voters are ***never*** going to see it, even if they do the DoubleThink will erase it post-haste. All they’ll see is are Dazza standing up to the wokies and the leftie racists who want to replace Great British citizens with foreign muslamic types.
Genuinely the biggest problem with Reforms rise is we will be putting the absolute least competent people in the most important roles. It’s bloody tragic.
Plus, when you look at the staggering levels of corruption Trump has brought into government, it’s very predictable the same thing will happen here.
There’s a good chance both of those courses are part of the council’s online induction programme. Last time I did some interim work at a council all of their induction training had gone online, and both of these were on the list of mandatory courses. There is probably no course to physically attend but an expectation that you have to at least sign to say you have read and understood them.
I really hope he gets a role like the councillor responsible for highways. And he gets hauled over the coals by a bunch of angry locals as he explains that woke DEI policies are stopping him from filling in potholes. And I hope it gets broadcast, live.
This guy is about to get the full force of democracy directly in the face and he is not going to like it.
They’re a total fucking joke, but unfortunately we’re the punchline.
I had to check the article for what that meant. For a second I imagined the whole council aside from this guy attending an empty room where nothing happens then saying they completed training.
I’m sure Reform voters have their excuses ready as to why this isn’t actually a big deal.
This paired with Andrea Jenkyns wanting to fire diversity officers that they didn’t have it is already becoming apparent that Reform and their voters have just been shouting at the clouds. They are finding out that the things they are angry about generally don’t even exist.
Is a Reform a whole party of online grifters or am I reading too much into a few instances?
It only ever existed in his mind lol not really surprising somebody who used to work at GB news making things up ⬆️
So this whole articles evidence is that an MP says so? Did the journalists consider just going to Durham councils website and doing some research?
https://www.durham.gov.uk/media/24896/Councillor-compact/pdf/CouncillorCompact.pdf
Section 8 says very clearly
“It is essential that councillors have an understanding of equalities
and diversity issues and training will be offered to you in these areas which
you must undertake.”
with must in bold text
If I don’t do my compulsory training I’m disciplined and potentially sacked. If I act like I know best I’ll also get disciplined and eventually sacked. Just suck it up and do it.
Bunch of lying idiots. Those who elected them deserve the mess they’ve got. Wtf are the rest of their constituents meant to do?
While these tits are making waves over fucking nonsense, real people will continue to suffer real issues with no support or hope for change. It’s hideous.
This epsilon-minus semi-moron being elected to public office is a new low foe this country.
Isn’t this the guy who tried a crafty wank at school and was caught?
Sorry, I just don’t get it. At all. It could not be more obvious that Reform are a bunch of lying grifters, and there seems to be more evidence of this practically every day. Nigel Farage may as well have ‘con man’ tattooed on his forehead.
Yet people actually vote for them.
a man who only cares about misinformation and causing division in society. Absolutely despise him
Shouldn’t these people be given an IQ test before they can stand for public office?
I bet he wouldn’t turn down putting his togger in a dead pig
Unfortunately for me this one is my local councillor. He and his minions have been hitting the area for weeks. Farage himself even came. They have had a lot of visibility.
On election day he was out walking the main roads with big Reform signs. He had a few elderly people with him, one with a walking stick. I stopped and asked what Nigel meant by having an American style health system (something he said the day before) Grimes did not have a clue. I asked the person with the stick whether they use private health care. No, the NHS.
He disposition matches his name, grime.
The man is also openly gay. The diversity equity and inclusion initiatives explicitly cover LGBTQ+.
Does he not agree with having a protected characteristic?
Some people who work for the council would have been alive when homosexuality was illegal in this country. It’s taken acts/laws to protect people of all demographics.
FFS they sound just like the GOP, cancel DEI, cancel climate change, cancel freedoms, cancel cancel-culture except of course their cancellations.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they start advocating for oil drilling across the country “drill baby drill” and opening up the national parks for lumber and building new homes.
Obviously there will be a new “building licence fee” and committee that after careful consideration only allows millionaires to purchase large lots of land to build single family mansions.
When people say the country is fucked this is what they mean. Absolutely embarrassing
Wait what?
In what cursed timeline is Crafty Wank an elected pillock?