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  1. Interesting assessment that Starmer has managed to do a very good job here.

    Also interesting to see an outsiders perspective on Brexit :

    >”Compounding the U.K.’s trade difficulties is Brexit, the U.K.’s spectacularly self-destructive decision to depart the European Union, which took effect in 2020. The U.K. did manage before that breakup to negotiate a free trade deal with the EU, eliminating the risk of tariffs being imposed on its imports or exports to the EU. But even so, the U.K.’s exports to the EU, which (as a bloc rather than a nation) is the U.K.’s biggest trading partner, are down by as much as 30 percent compared to where they would be had Brexit never occurred. This has left the U.K. a bit frantic to cut trade deals elsewhere, and especially with the U.S.”

  2. Minimum-Geologist-58 on

    Depending on how the Section 232 carve outs work, especially Aluminium, this is a really good deal for the UK. Aluminium derivatives cover anything that saw an uptick when tariffs were enacted against Aluminium and China tariffs came into play so they’re usually things Chinese manufacturers could pass off aluminium tubes and plates as at a lower tariff rate, which involves a lot of electronics the UK specialises in (“it’s not an aluminium plate it’s a part for radar, honest!”). That and aerospace and cars and that’s a lot of UK manufacturing covered.

    So good news, the fact that the Tories and Reform don’t get it is deeply worrying for them. The devil’s in the detail but on face value it looks good.

  3. Shawn_The_Sheep777 on

    It’s interesting that an American sees the UK as the winner in this deal. The UK right wing media will see things differently

  4. Tree-fizzy on

    We brits used to seek and destroy nazis, now we make deals with them. Shame on us for not telling trump to shove his deals up his arse

  5. Did anyone else watch the US lead trade negotiators glazing Trump during the press conference? I genuinely have never seen anything like it – it was truly pathetic

  6. Krabsandwich on

    Its really a win win for both countries the UK wins for obvious reasons reduction or total removal of some tariffs and the chance to negotiate the reduction or removal of others. The US wins because any trade deal helps calm the markets and keeps his base happy. In Trump land this is a massive vindication of his policies and is often being bigged up beyond belief “art of the deal” being thrown round a great deal.

  7. Grim_Reaper17 on

    Nobody understands trade deals so you can spin it how you want. It was the same during the 2016-2019 period with endless discussions of trade deals. Everyone had their own proposed pet deal which would fix things. Canada Light, Norway, no deal at all etc. In the end we got a deal with the EU, but not many people really noticed one way or the other. The fact is the average person has never seen a trade deal, or even read the text of one. They rely on media to cherry pick bits of them.

  8. theantiyeti on

    Going for hormone free beef is genius:

    * Trumps been hanging out with RFK and other “natural diet” anti-vaxx anti-processed food sorts so it probably seemed really reasonable to him
    * Very little, if any US beef is hormone free, except for small providers which aren’t price competitive with British and Irish beef anyway
    * Bullet point 2 is never going to change. There’s 0 chance Trump fights the agricultural lobby and actually passes regulation on this

  9. Trade deals with both India and USA which seem to favour the UK heavily. I’d say this is win for Starmer

  10. Maybe_Marit_Lage on

    Confusingly worded; so are British steel exports et al. completely tariff-free, or is it that there are no *additional* tariffs on top of the 10% base tariff? Either way, it does seem like a pretty good deal for the UK. 

    Unrelated, but I thought it’d already been confirmed that Trump’s meeting with Charles wouldn’t be at Balmoral or Dumfries – likely because the Scottish courts have an outstanding financial investigation against Trump.

  11. Gold_Dragonfruit_180 on

    As far as I could see, nothing is fully worked out or even ready for signing. Until that is done we have no trade deal. AND lets face it, Donnie will have changed his mind by then.

    Having said that, the car deal is great for us considering we might just have to pay the tarrif on just one export if the figures stay the same.

  12. Infinite_Pack_7942 on

    Besides the point but why do Americans feel the need to insert their ancestry into any situation possible. No one cares that you’re great-grandparents were British mate and it definitely isn’t a requirement to be ethnically British to criticise the U.K’s economy and policies. Say your piece and move on

  13. I’ve realised that many people on both sides of the Atlantic dislike this deal or attempt to undermine it simply because they dislike Trump. They want to see him fail, even if it comes at the expense of their own country.

    Remember, it’s possible to dislike Trump and still be objective. He can be a bad person while making a deal that benefits both countries.

  14. standbehind on

    This deal seems pretty good, but even the BBC is talking about it as if it’s a disaster. The right refuse to allow anything positive come out of this government,

  15. Legendofvader on

    dont know enough about the deal to comment. Seems like a partial deal was done. As for the food standards devil will be in the detail as the saying goes.

  16. Key-Lie-364 on

    Trump levies tariffs on everybody.

    The UK gets some of those tariffs lifted, meanwhile still eating the rest of the tariffs in conjunction with having voted itself out of the European single market with which it does literally 4x the business with the US.

    Is this “Global Britain” vindicating Brexit ?

    Predictably self-congratulatory delusion from the Brexit press, in full denial of just basic maths – excuse “math” that’s what you have to call it now Global Britain “math”

    Enjoy !

  17. Spamgrenade on

    Not surprising, Trumps clowns vs British diplomats is not much of a contest.

  18. treacle1810 on

    it don’t really matter what deal he’s made he’ll be wiping his arse with it in a few weeks’

  19. It’s interesting reading the news from the UK perspective. From the US perspective they have raised the effective tariff to the UK to 10% from 3.4% in the past. While the article is selective in reporting the goods where there were tariff reductions.